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Old 2nd March 2005, 02:55 PM
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Actually, I think posters ought to give a referent the first time they use an acronym in a thread (not every time within the thread, just the first time) in the form:
  • Failure Mode & Effects Analysis (FMEA) or
  • Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
to help us understand the poster didn't have a dyslexic moment to type one acronym when he meant the other.
I'd be a real happy camper myself if folks would do this.

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Old 2nd March 2005, 03:09 PM
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On the other hand adding an acronym page might draw more users to the site.
Sounds like a pretty major undertaking though.
My thoughts exactly....

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Old 2nd March 2005, 04:43 PM
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Woud it be that major if everyone pitched in? I have a little cheat sheet of acronyms that I refer to every time I thumb through our procedure books, and I would assume that lots of folks have the same kind of thing floating around their hard drives.

Rather than trying to create a definitive list, could we not just have something casually drawn together using input from Covers? I would bet that after a period of time with additions from such a variety of people the list would naturally become full and complete. If there were one thread dedicated to submissions to the list and the lead post were editable, could the list itself not be contained in the lead post and just updated from additions to the thread itself? It could take minimal space and tacked to the top of a thread somewhere with a sticky. (Does that make sense? I admit I'm sort of thinking with my fingers.)

I'm not so desperate for that kind of information now, but a few months ago it would have been a fantastic introduction to quality terms and been a great resource while I was trying to grasp so much information all at once. I can't help thinking that I'm surely not the only person who finds themself faced with the daunting project of learning "all about quality" with no background and little guidance, and nearly everything I know right now came from this very website and all of you folks. (Y'all, I really appreciate that, too!)
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Old 2nd March 2005, 06:33 PM
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Woud it be that major if everyone pitched in? I have a little cheat sheet of acronyms that I refer to every time I thumb through our procedure books, and I would assume that lots of folks have the same kind of thing floating around their hard drives.

Rather than trying to create a definitive list, could we not just have something casually drawn together using input from Covers? I would bet that after a period of time with additions from such a variety of people the list would naturally become full and complete. If there were one thread dedicated to submissions to the list and the lead post were editable, could the list itself not be contained in the lead post and just updated from additions to the thread itself? It could take minimal space and tacked to the top of a thread somewhere with a sticky. (Does that make sense? I admit I'm sort of thinking with my fingers.)

I'm not so desperate for that kind of information now, but a few months ago it would have been a fantastic introduction to quality terms and been a great resource while I was trying to grasp so much information all at once. I can't help thinking that I'm surely not the only person who finds themself faced with the daunting project of learning "all about quality" with no background and little guidance, and nearly everything I know right now came from this very website and all of you folks. (Y'all, I really appreciate that, too!)
You will have to refer to a sticky note in another forum. The sticky note will have to be searched. it's probably easier to go to www.acronymfinder.com. You can even add a button to your toolbar. If the Acronym is not found you can submit it to the site. Why re-invent the wheel? Especially when the existing wheel is better, since someone else provides a means for adding entries to the database and maintains it.
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Old 3rd March 2005, 01:19 AM
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I like the idea, but it is a daunting task. We can of course ask our members to contribute to the definitions knowledge base. Take a look at:
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IMO, both these are limited in their scope. I'd also like to see more detailed definitions with some explaination if possible.
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Old 3rd March 2005, 09:36 AM
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Atul, thank you for those links! Good resource!
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Old 3rd March 2005, 10:56 AM
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Atul, thank you for those links! Good resource!
I disagree--it's a terrible resource, and a good example of why constructing a glossary--please don't call it an "acronyms" list--is fraught with danger. Here's an example from one of the links, a definition of "capability":

"Capability analysis is a graphical or statistical tool that visually or mathematically compares actual process performance to the performance standards established by the customer.
To analyze (plot or calculate) capability you need the mean and standard deviation associated with the required attribute in a sample of product (usually n=30), and customer requirements associated with that product."

Note the glaring absence of the need to verify process stability, which probably isn't even possible when n=30. "Graphical or statistical"??? The writer also causes unnecessary confusion by saying "attribute" instead of "feature" or "characteristic."

In just cursory glance at some of the other definitions I found similar weaknesses. I'm not saying that a Cove glossary is a bad idea; I'm just saying that there is a fairly daunting responsibility for accuracy that goes with it, and that responsibility should not be taken lightly. Definitions (which are akin to specifications) form the basis of our work and must be treated with due respect.
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Old 3rd March 2005, 01:11 PM
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Yes! The use of "attribute" invalidates the entire definition. Worse - because it represents an "authority," some newbie might pick up the wrongful jargon and talk about "attributes" when he means "characteristic" - worlds apart in meaning in most manufacturing mileus.
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