Internal Audits Schedule vs. Surveillance Audits Schedule

Sebastian

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Should I audit all QMS processes before Surveillance Audit is performed?
In details - SA is scheduled for November, am I allowed to schedule any of internal audits for December?
 

Ajit Basrur

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Re: Internal Audits Schedule vs Surveillance Audits Schedule

Should I audit all QMS processes before Surveillance Audit is performed?
In details - SA is scheduled for November, am I allowed to schedule any of internal audits for December?

Sebastian, I would go for audit of all QMS processes. Besides, audits are intended for the betterment of our own organization. So no harm in auditing all processes, isnt it ?

Or else, we :sleep: on some points
 
C

chergh - 2008

A completed round of audits is only required for the certification audit. Once you start having surveillance audits the auditor will look for you having an audit plan and for you carrying out your audits according to that plan. If you do audits the month after your surveillance audit they will be picked up at the next surveillance audit.
 

Sebastian

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There are some requirements, I could overlook, so I've asked.
E.g. I did not know 3rd party audit should start from Management. Maybe it is a natural way to start it up, but it is also somewhere determined.
 

AndyN

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Sebastian:

Your 3rd party auditor should publish a schedule/agenda of what they want to audit, before they do the SA. If they didn't, you must ask for one. It is acceptable to internally audit those items, before your SA. In fact, you must also get a schedule/agenda so that you know who in your organization needs to be prepared and so that they are available to meet the auditor during the SA visit.

Otherwise, your normal internal audit schedule should be continued as planned. You don't need to worry about having done all processes before the SA - unless your 3rd party auditor has their spin on things - but you don't have to accept that!

Good luck!

Andy
 
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