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Steven Sulkin
PPAP is really turning out to be a bureaucratic, non value-added mess. Don’t get me wrong, I think PPAP is a valuable concept. But these automotive guys are nuts!!!
I want to avoid requesting waivers from our customers all the time. For example, we need waiver of level 3 submittal for insigificant changes, we need waivers for submittal of 2 samples, we need waiver for retention of a sample part.
We are not in a mass production environment. For us, retention of parts would be a franchise buster. I believe this boils down to the interpretation of part versus bulk material. I would consider our part bulk material. However, it doesnt meet QS9000's definition which is that it is formed into a solid shape. A matter of descrimination against solids? This is not just a little problem. Our parts can cost 150K a piece. We have to retain "parts" we would add huge inventory costs. If we disagree with the requirement we must seek a waiver.
Process changes require qualification, which means you get shut off until the customer gets around to qualifying you. Meanwhile your competitors are eating your lunch.
I would like to submit for only significant changes. I would like to interpret our part as bulk material. I would like to avoid sending warrants and requesting waivers from customers who have never heard of QS9000 and are likely to pull our product fro 6 months until they get around to qualifying us.
Help!!! Can we take advantage of the fact that we do not supply to the big three to get ourselves out of all these waivers?
Thanks,
Steve.
[This message has been edited by Steven Sulkin (edited 11 October 1999).]
I want to avoid requesting waivers from our customers all the time. For example, we need waiver of level 3 submittal for insigificant changes, we need waivers for submittal of 2 samples, we need waiver for retention of a sample part.
We are not in a mass production environment. For us, retention of parts would be a franchise buster. I believe this boils down to the interpretation of part versus bulk material. I would consider our part bulk material. However, it doesnt meet QS9000's definition which is that it is formed into a solid shape. A matter of descrimination against solids? This is not just a little problem. Our parts can cost 150K a piece. We have to retain "parts" we would add huge inventory costs. If we disagree with the requirement we must seek a waiver.
Process changes require qualification, which means you get shut off until the customer gets around to qualifying you. Meanwhile your competitors are eating your lunch.
I would like to submit for only significant changes. I would like to interpret our part as bulk material. I would like to avoid sending warrants and requesting waivers from customers who have never heard of QS9000 and are likely to pull our product fro 6 months until they get around to qualifying us.
Help!!! Can we take advantage of the fact that we do not supply to the big three to get ourselves out of all these waivers?
Thanks,
Steve.
[This message has been edited by Steven Sulkin (edited 11 October 1999).]