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Old 11th May 2018, 10:30 AM
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Supplier Fire May Cause Ford to Shut Second F-150 Plant

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is this will "rekindle" the contingency plan auditing portion of IATF 16949. They will be looking for a plan beyond just a temporary blackout from a thunderstorm. They will likely use this event to look for responses to much more dramatic disasters.

It's not about being affordable or reasonable, the OEMs just want assurances that nothing stops their plants.
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Old 11th May 2018, 11:04 AM
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They can have all the "assurances" they want. But short of complete duplicates, on different sides of the world, there is nothing that can guarantee bad stuff wont happen.
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Supplier Fire May Cause Ford to Shut Second F-150 Plant

My expectation
is this will "rekindle" the contingency plan auditing portion of IATF 16949. They will be looking for a plan beyond just a temporary blackout from a thunderstorm. They will likely use this event to look for responses to much more dramatic disasters.

It's not about being affordable or reasonable, the OEMs just want assurances that nothing stops their plants.
Also, see this thread.
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Old 11th May 2018, 11:34 AM
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They can have all the "assurances" they want. But short of complete duplicates, on different sides of the world, there is nothing that can guarantee bad stuff wont happen.
That's a misunderstanding of the purpose of a contingency plan. It's not to prevent issues - no-one can do that - but to have a robust plan to be able respond appropriately. Having worked at a tier 1 which HAD such a plan, I can vouch for the fact it's a wonderful thing to see when it's needed.

Added in edit: If a fire from manufacturing in magnesium wasn't #1 on their Contingency plan, a lot of heads should roll...

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Supplier Fire May Cause Ford to Shut Second F-150 Plant

My expectation
is this will "rekindle" the contingency plan auditing portion of IATF 16949.
I thought an analysis of CB findings showed that CP was being audited and found non-compliant (my guess it was for something silly)
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Old 12th May 2018, 01:39 PM
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That's a misunderstanding of the purpose of a contingency plan. It's not to prevent issues - no-one can do that - but to have a robust plan to be able respond appropriately. Having worked at a tier 1 which HAD such a plan, I can vouch for the fact it's a wonderful thing to see when it's needed.

Added in edit: If a fire from manufacturing in magnesium wasn't #1 on their Contingency plan, a lot of heads should roll...
Right but how could you possibly come back from a serious fire within a timeframe to keep the auto plants open. You can't just turn these things on. Just to build out, re-tool, and re-equip could take months.
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Right but how could you possibly come back from a serious fire within a timeframe to keep the auto plants open. You can't just turn these things on. Just to build out, re-tool, and re-equip could take months.
THAT'S what the plan's for! Maybe they didn't consider that. I'd have expected a significant stock holding (in another building) to have been negotiated with Ford. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Another classic where top management only see doing IATF or ISO requirements as something just to keep an auditor happy...
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More news: Supplier fire ripples across the industry
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