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Old 9th March 2018, 11:18 AM
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Second point would be, how would you intend to audit a warehouse operation with Skype. I could see that a video conference and screen sharing could work for data processing or administrative functions,but a warehouse audit should take into account the surroundings and physical work. I am struggling to see how this could be achieved remotely.
I agree. Typical issues at warehouses, from a quality standpoint include damaged, deteriorated, unidentified products. Not easy to verify (yet) remotely. But, as suggested, if historical data show that not to be a concern, so be it.

As for the CB unilateral change of dates, the transition deadline crunch is sure at play.

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Old 9th March 2018, 10:04 PM
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The Registar actually told me that I would need to internally audit all of my remote facilities (8 in total) to confirm conformance to the changes in ISO 9001:2015, even though they are only sampling 4 of the facilities. Most of these facilities are low risk, so normally I would consider spending my time elsewhere. This is a total waste of our resources.

I don't even have official audit date confirmations yet for audits happening at the end of this month. This is a very well known Registar, by the way.


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I agree with the comment about auditing a warehouse without actually being there. My question is, WHY are you auditing? If you take the requirement to audit based on the "importance of the process", "changes affecting the organization". If we consider these, how important is the warehouse (problems in there?) or have there been any changes affecting its operation? If the answers to both are, not very and none, then why bother until other, more important processes are taken care of...?
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Old 10th March 2018, 01:55 PM
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The Registar actually told me that I would need to internally audit all of my remote facilities (8 in total) to confirm conformance to the changes in ISO 9001:2015, even though they are only sampling 4 of the facilities. Most of these facilities are low risk, so normally I would consider spending my time elsewhere. This is a total waste of our resources.

I don't even have official audit date confirmations yet for audits happening at the end of this month. This is a very well known Registar, by the way.
OK, your audits are for the end of the month but the dates haven't been confirmed yet? That's one of the most godawful HS stories I've heard in a while, the CB works for you, and not you for it and it doesn't matter how well they are known. I'm an external (contracted auditor) for a well known CB and except in a very unusual circumstance the places I visit know months in advance of the scheduled dates, have my contact information and everything else, I am required to contact them personally no less than 30 days out, verify everything and provide a revised audit plan/schedule if necessary....There's none of this "We'll see you tomorrow garbage". You should know right now, not tomorrow or next week, but right now which warehouses are to be sampled...In fact you should have known 2 or 3 years ago as part of a communicated sampling plan to you.

Andy and Sidney are correct in that only the differences between the standards need special verification and not every stinking thing.
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Old 10th March 2018, 05:17 PM
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The Registar actually told me that I would need to internally audit all of my remote facilities (8 in total) to confirm conformance to the changes in ISO 9001:2015, even though they are only sampling 4 of the facilities. Most of these facilities are low risk, so normally I would consider spending my time elsewhere. This is a total waste of our resources.

I don't even have official audit date confirmations yet for audits happening at the end of this month. This is a very well known Registar, by the way.
Most of the changes don't affect the warehouse activity. Someone's either technically incompetent at your CB's HQ or pulling your leg. Time to move on to a better one (after you get your upgrade audit)
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