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ISO 14001 Clause 4.1 Organization and its context - What does an Auditor expect?
ISO 14001 Clause 4.1 Organization and its context - What does an Auditor expect?
ISO 14001 Clause 4.1 Organization and its context - What does an Auditor expect?
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Old 4th October 2017, 10:34 AM
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Re: ISO 14001 Clause 4.1 Organization and its context - What does an Auditor expect?

I am in the process of upgrading to the new standard and have been trying answer 4.1 and 4.2 - I did reason somewhere that its easier to do 4.2 then 4.1 - but still struggling - anyone fancy sharing what they wrote?

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Old 10th November 2017, 09:24 AM
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Re: ISO 14001 Clause 4.1 Organization and its context - What does an Auditor expect?

Good day Batman1056;
Please allow me to share a truncated paraphrase of a recent procedure that covers 4.0 . Keep in mind that 4.1+4.2= 4.3. These are then acted upon via 6.1.


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Old 10th November 2017, 12:52 PM
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From the looks of it I'm the only auditor responding. You've got the answer in your hands if you'll just use it and not go all crazy getting into a lather about this.

Remember - 1st you don't have to make an auditor happy or pleased (That's up to their significant other or at least a good meal)

2nd - You aren't required to document diddly...Do you see anywhere in 4.1 or 4.2 that you have to document anything?

3rd - If some fool auditor demands that you identify "every" issue, expectation, and need right out of the chute ask him/her/whatever to show you that requirement, and the purpose of continual improvement
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Old 10th November 2017, 01:09 PM
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Re: ISO 14001 Clause 4.1 Organization and its context - What does an Auditor expect?

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From the looks of it I'm the only auditor responding. You've got the answer in your hands if you'll just use it and not go all crazy getting into a lather about this.

Remember - 1st you don't have to make an auditor happy or pleased (That's up to their significant other or at least a good meal)

2nd - You aren't required to document diddly...Do you see anywhere in 4.1 or 4.2 that you have to document anything?

3rd - If some fool auditor demands that you identify "every" issue, expectation, and need right out of the chute ask him/her/whatever to show you that requirement, and the purpose of continual improvement
Randy,
Thank you so much for your reply. I have taken the cue from you and simplified the response for Context of the Organization. We already had 3 transitions to ISO9001:2015 and following your advice-it worked!!!
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