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Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?
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Old 16th February 2009, 03:33 PM
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Question Is ISO 9001 Transition (from 2000 to 2008 version) Training Required?

Is tranisition training required for an organization's internal auditors. I have received a solicitation from a training provider who says that their course meets RABQASA and IRCA requirements. Don't't these requirements pertain just to certification/regsistrar auditors.

I have seen nothing that makes "transition training" mandatory for anyone else.

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Old 16th February 2009, 03:38 PM
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Training requirements for internal auditors are generally set by the organization. I agree that the transition training requirement would be for certification in third party auditors, say for BSI or DNV. You do not appear to be a specific target in the advertisement; sounds to me like they are fishing.
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Old 16th February 2009, 04:28 PM
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Is tranisition training required for an organization's internal auditors. I have received a solicitation from a training provider who says that their course meets RABQASA and IRCA requirements. Don't't these requirements pertain just to certification/regsistrar auditors.

I have seen nothing that makes "transition training" mandatory for anyone else.

Thank you.
Paul
A course that meets the RABQSA or IRCA requirements is not just for a CB/registrar auditor. Any qms or ems auditor looking for 'accredited' training would attend such a class.

There is no transition training requirement for ISO 2008, for example, it's just that the training provider's course meets those requirements. I agree with Jen, it may be that they're trying to drum up some business.......
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Old 17th February 2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: Is Transition Training Required

It depends on what your Registrar requires - I have seen some that want companies to review their systems to see if they now meet the 'clarifications' in the standard.

I should be running a public course on changes to the standard, not because it's required that companies attend something like that, but just because some ppl want to find out and are willing to attend a seminar to get the info.
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Old 17th February 2009, 12:22 PM
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It depends on what your Registrar requires - I have seen some that want companies to review their systems to see if they now meet the 'clarifications' in the standard.
Are you serious that a CB (not a single auditor) requires a client to attend training in the 2008 standard? If so, I'd politely suggest that client should start looking for another CB.......
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Old 17th February 2009, 12:43 PM
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It depends on what your Registrar requires - I have seen some that want companies to review their systems to see if they now meet the 'clarifications' in the standard.
Which Registrars do "require" this?

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Old 17th February 2009, 12:47 PM
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I should be running a public course on changes to the standard, not because it's required that companies attend something like that, but just because some ppl want to find out and are willing to attend a seminar to get the info.
According to my incoming e-mails, everyone is offering "Training" for the 2008 clarifications.

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Old 17th February 2009, 12:53 PM
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According to my incoming e-mails, everyone is offering "Training" for the 2008 clarifications.
I think that whether training is a good idea in this instance is wholly dependent on whether (A) doughnuts* are provided, and (B) the training takes no more than 10 minutes unless it takes longer to eat the doughnuts.


*And I mean bakery doughnuts, not that Dunkin' Donuts junk. This is important training, after all.
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