Our company uses go/no plug gages at several locations. As per control plan, the operators are required to measure product at least 3 times a shift using these gages.
Our Quality System Coordinator thinks that it is necessary to keep record of operators using go/no gages at required intervals. And that is why every operation has a form to fill in the "ok/ not ok" field for the use of plug gage.
I talked to her today and told her that it doesn't look right to me that the operators fill out forms only for plug gages. An ok/not-ok field in a form does not give us any information about process, and only gives an opportunity for auditor to find nonconformance when these forms are not filled in 100%.
She told me that it is a requirement of ISO 9001, and she cited 8.2.4 for it:
"Evidence of conformity with the acceptance criteria shall be maintained."
So she said if we don't record use of plug gage in forms then what evidence would we have for conformity with our control plan?
I had no answer to this. But it still sounds weird to me. I see no use of keeping so much data. I always thought that ISO system is very logical and uses common-sense. So I don't what to make of this interpretation.
I also remember the last company I was working it, where control plan did call for inspections using plug gages, yet they were not recording the use of plug gage anywhere. It was a given.
Please help me understand it, friends. We are accumulating loads of paperwork due to this, and to me it is for no reason.
Our Quality System Coordinator thinks that it is necessary to keep record of operators using go/no gages at required intervals. And that is why every operation has a form to fill in the "ok/ not ok" field for the use of plug gage.
I talked to her today and told her that it doesn't look right to me that the operators fill out forms only for plug gages. An ok/not-ok field in a form does not give us any information about process, and only gives an opportunity for auditor to find nonconformance when these forms are not filled in 100%.
She told me that it is a requirement of ISO 9001, and she cited 8.2.4 for it:
"Evidence of conformity with the acceptance criteria shall be maintained."
So she said if we don't record use of plug gage in forms then what evidence would we have for conformity with our control plan?
I had no answer to this. But it still sounds weird to me. I see no use of keeping so much data. I always thought that ISO system is very logical and uses common-sense. So I don't what to make of this interpretation.
I also remember the last company I was working it, where control plan did call for inspections using plug gages, yet they were not recording the use of plug gage anywhere. It was a given.
Please help me understand it, friends. We are accumulating loads of paperwork due to this, and to me it is for no reason.