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Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification process
Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification process
Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification process
Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification process
Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification process
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Old 25th August 2017, 02:17 PM
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Re: Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification proces

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When you do that, not everyone has to agree.
If the management of an organization does not realize that there are numerous business processes that can significantly affect customer satisfaction and product conformity to requirements, they are too obtuse to understand anything that is quality related; you could call it my pot of gold management system and would not make any difference, in my estimation.

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Old 25th August 2017, 09:59 PM
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Re: Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification proces

These arguments are going to be played out many times in the next seven years - probably more so in the first half as we settle on the lowest common denominator we can accept. I'm dealing with these issues in real time and working to adjust my expectations as required.
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Old 26th August 2017, 07:48 AM
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Re: Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification proces

I for one, feel ISO has gone too far with some of the direction the new revision has gone. They shouldn't be getting into business plans and running the business. By its very nature, a quality product will lend itself to increasing business, but ISO has gone a little too far here. Identifying interested stakeholders should be discussed by top management, but not as a requirement in a Quality standard. Top management is by far stupid and this needn't be dictated to them. After all, they ARE running their business.
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Old 27th August 2017, 12:38 AM
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Re: Management Involvement / Commitment - CEO involvement in the certification proces

You are correct, they may have gone too far, but as I tell my management, the people who contribute to the revisions of the standard don't just sit around and make this stuff up because it's amusing.

Each of the elements in the standard are there because somebody's project crashed and burned due to that function not being performed adequately.
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Old 28th August 2017, 09:54 AM
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I regret that I can only click on the [THANKS] button once.

You can always click the button and the button. Right now your "Karma Power" is 122, so clicking the karma button would add 122 points to his reputation. The thanks button only adds 5 points.
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