kensonic_qmr
Starting to get Involved
Hello guys! We just conducted an Internal Audit last week and submitted our Internal Audit Report Findings to our Quality Management Representative last saturday. We have a little (and good) argument about one of our findings.
He noticed that one of our findings is that some of our records like time cards are not signed by employees and we call it under 4.2.3 a of Control of Documents. He is just curious because records should be controlled under 4.2.4 Control of records. I already said to him that we call it under 4.2.3 because 4.2.4 doesn't state that records should be approved prior to issue but 4.2.3 a clearly says it. I considered also the fact that records are a special type of documents which means that it can be treated or controlled under 4.2.3.His argument is that it can't be called under 4.2.3 because a portion of 4.2.3 Control of documents state that "Records are a special type of documents and shall be controlled according to the requirements given in 4.2.4".
I need your help guys! What clause in ISO9001:2008 standard can we call the said findings. Arigato!!
He noticed that one of our findings is that some of our records like time cards are not signed by employees and we call it under 4.2.3 a of Control of Documents. He is just curious because records should be controlled under 4.2.4 Control of records. I already said to him that we call it under 4.2.3 because 4.2.4 doesn't state that records should be approved prior to issue but 4.2.3 a clearly says it. I considered also the fact that records are a special type of documents which means that it can be treated or controlled under 4.2.3.His argument is that it can't be called under 4.2.3 because a portion of 4.2.3 Control of documents state that "Records are a special type of documents and shall be controlled according to the requirements given in 4.2.4".
I need your help guys! What clause in ISO9001:2008 standard can we call the said findings. Arigato!!