I've finally got top management to start looking at transition. That means I've been told to do it, well that's how it feels. We're a small company that's been certified to 9001 for over ten years without any NC. Well a handful of little ones that got cleared before the auditor was able to write his report / NC finding.
We have mature operations / product realization side. We deal with a few big customers and a few small ones. Suppliers are relatively few and mostly reliable / managed. We're a bit weak on audit (nobody who is formally trained will do it so a few ppl bungling their way through). Basically we have a system that is acceptable for 2008 version.
So how much work is the change to 2015 version really? Is it complete new QMS or just a few more bits to add?
Are we cutting it a bit fine looking at it now?
It looks to me that 4.1, 4.2, 6.1, 7.1.6, 8.3.1 & 10.1 are the clauses that don't have something equivalent in 2005 version. If it's going to be difficult to completely re-do a new QMS top down to the new standard in the time left then it doesn't look like there's that much to add to the existing QMS to get through transition. Shortcut to keep the certificate (and customers) with a new, improved QMS phased in for the next re-cert.
One more thing, next year would be the last surveillance audit before a re-cert. Does transition equate to a re-cert? What I mean is once we are certified to 2015 version next year, would the 3 year cycle be reset? I'm hoping not because it would allow time (one year) to improve the QMS before the re-cert after transition considering we've left it late to make the changes
really needed.
We have mature operations / product realization side. We deal with a few big customers and a few small ones. Suppliers are relatively few and mostly reliable / managed. We're a bit weak on audit (nobody who is formally trained will do it so a few ppl bungling their way through). Basically we have a system that is acceptable for 2008 version.
So how much work is the change to 2015 version really? Is it complete new QMS or just a few more bits to add?
Are we cutting it a bit fine looking at it now?
It looks to me that 4.1, 4.2, 6.1, 7.1.6, 8.3.1 & 10.1 are the clauses that don't have something equivalent in 2005 version. If it's going to be difficult to completely re-do a new QMS top down to the new standard in the time left then it doesn't look like there's that much to add to the existing QMS to get through transition. Shortcut to keep the certificate (and customers) with a new, improved QMS phased in for the next re-cert.
One more thing, next year would be the last surveillance audit before a re-cert. Does transition equate to a re-cert? What I mean is once we are certified to 2015 version next year, would the 3 year cycle be reset? I'm hoping not because it would allow time (one year) to improve the QMS before the re-cert after transition considering we've left it late to make the changes
really needed.