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ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard
ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard
ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard
ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard
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Old 12th June 2017, 12:19 PM
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Re: ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard

A very telling interesting article concerning accreditation of CB's involved in certification of organizations systems against standards such as OHSAS 18001 and (the upcoming) ISO 45001 can be read here.

A couple of paragraphs in the article state:
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The recent worldwide increase of OH&SMS certifications saw different approaches to the accreditation of OH&SMS CBs by the national Accreditation Bodies (ABs):

• some ABs focused more on the market opportunities, applying the requirements of ISO/IEC 17021, not considering that the risk of an OH&SMS certification is much higher than any other MS certification

• a few other ABs considered the risk of OH&SMS certification to be much higher than any other MS certification, and applied requirements more stringent then ISO/IEC 17021

Different approaches could lead to unfair competition, with significant differences in audit times and costs for organizations, and might cause possible damages to the credibility of accreditation.
In other words, different Accreditation Bodies use different criteria to "approve" CB's involved with certification of occupational health & safety management systems. So, the goal of "one certificate recognized everywhere" is at risk.

One of the things that the article does not clarify is: why are the risks of OH&SMS certification much higher than any other certification? Why are certifications of quality systems (ISO 9001, AS9100, etc.), information security systems (ISO 27011, etc.), food safety systems (ISO 22000, etc.) less risky than OHSMS?

If a QMS has a significant breakdown and products are allowed to be sold, in violation of product safety standards, many consumers could be injured or die. If contaminated food products are allowed to reach the kitchen of the populace, people might die...So, why, in the eyes of the AB's, accreditation of CB's for OHSMS is riskier? Risk? Just thinking...
Thank You to Sidney Vianna for your informative Post and/or Attachment!

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Old 12th June 2017, 05:46 PM
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Good questions Sidney, I'm trying to figure out where the factoring comes in differentiating between initial OHS risk and residual OHS risk. Also, organizations that fall into lower risk categories on the chart could be in reality higher risks because of crappy management and culture...Surely something like that will be able to be factored..

This whole process has become more convoluted than a goat or pig trail in the hills.
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Old 13th June 2017, 02:17 AM
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we will be out of Europe soon they dont care about H&S only the Brits.. viva la Brits
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Old 13th June 2017, 08:05 AM
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we will be out of Europe soon they dont care about H&S only the Brits.. viva la Brits
Not according to Henria
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Old 13th June 2017, 11:32 AM
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Re: ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard

I just wish someone who ascribe to the idea that OHSMS carry, intrinsically, a higher degree of risk would come here and defend, or attempt to, this line of thought.

As a byproduct of the text, it is good to see exposed the "philosophical" differences amongst AB's. It gets reflected very clearly in places like the IAQG ICOP Scheme, where CB suspensions are unheard of in the APAQG sector and very rare in the EAQG sector.

One certificate, recognized everywhere.
Thanks to Sidney Vianna for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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