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Old 30th July 2014, 03:07 PM
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I remember a while back being advised to split up our combined procedure. In our case it was a good thing, because it let us see how different the preventive action process really was from the corrective action process, even though there are similar characteristics shared in both processes. While others may prefer to combine theirs in the same document, I personally found it easier to digest as a separate procedure.

I have attached a sample procedure that I came up with that may be what you're looking for. The table on page 2 will be of great importance as it allows you to list your preventive action activities (inputs and outputs). The registrar auditor we used saw this as a vast improvement over our previous iteration, and does not require us to resort to a "PA form" methodology. Let me know if this is up your alley....

Brian
Brian,
We're on the same page, I'd created a similar matrix which also included ongoing CI efforts and standing meetings which also serve as CA/PA opportunities. I attached it as an Appendix to the procedure, and updated the procedure to indicate these were examples of existing PA efforts.

We'll see what the registrar thinks tomorrow, at least there's something there for review now....

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I remember a while back being advised to split up our combined procedure. In our case it was a good thing, because it let us see how different the preventive action process really was from the corrective action process, even though there are similar characteristics shared in both processes. While others may prefer to combine theirs in the same document, I personally found it easier to digest as a separate procedure.

I have attached a sample procedure that I came up with that may be what you're looking for. The table on page 2 will be of great importance as it allows you to list your preventive action activities (inputs and outputs). The registrar auditor we used saw this as a vast improvement over our previous iteration, and does not require us to resort to a "PA form" methodology. Let me know if this is up your alley....

Brian
Hi Brian,

Thanks for sharing your PA procedure. It's very straightforward and simple enough to use. I also like how the table has provided the means of verification for the resulting preventive actions.
Thanks to element79 for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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You can also take a look at this document what are the expectations related to preventive actions in the future (the substitution of PA for a risk-based approach to the whole QMS).
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Old 18th August 2014, 06:09 PM
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for sharing your PA procedure. It's very straightforward and simple enough to use. I also like how the table has provided the means of verification for the resulting preventive actions.
You're welcome....always glad to hear that something I did helped someone else out.

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Brian,
We're on the same page, I'd created a similar matrix which also included ongoing CI efforts and standing meetings which also serve as CA/PA opportunities. I attached it as an Appendix to the procedure, and updated the procedure to indicate these were examples of existing PA efforts.

We'll see what the registrar thinks tomorrow, at least there's something there for review now....
Do you happen to have any updates on what your registrar thought of your PA procedure? I'm actually curious to see if they suggested any improvements on your end, and what they were.

Brian
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