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jeepdog
I just read the threads and I would like to add a question if I may. I too have been going nuts w/ the idea of process auditing. If I perform what I presume is a process audit for a detail part coming in the door and making its way to stock (i.e. product realization) we go thru - shipping receivers – PO clauses – Op. sheets - inspection- calibration -secondary machining- tooling- signed operations – evidence of inspection- shipping- packaging - purchase orders & approvals – approved vendors –special processes – flow down requirements- risk- Stock.
By the time I’m done preparing for this audit, I have 109 questions on a checklist which I’m told I’m not supposed to need or use and I’m told I’m auditing elements not the process. The questions I have developed come from our procedures and instructions. I ask things like “Is there evidence Critical characteristics are identified on ICL’s”, “Is there evidence Op. sheets are approved and have a revision” “Is there evidence of an approved list of vendors” and so on.
Essentially I turn every action stated in every procedure and instruction in the chain into a question.
I feel I am doing a process audit as I get from one end to the other and that a checklist is appropriate, but in the end I have a lengthy audit. Is an audit of 109 questions unusual? My auditors balk at what seems like a lot of questions but how do I show we do what we say without asking the questions? Am I too deep in the weeds with my questions? And I am newly RABQSA auditing certified (though I never got to get to this question for my first party audits). Sorry about the amount of info here!
By the time I’m done preparing for this audit, I have 109 questions on a checklist which I’m told I’m not supposed to need or use and I’m told I’m auditing elements not the process. The questions I have developed come from our procedures and instructions. I ask things like “Is there evidence Critical characteristics are identified on ICL’s”, “Is there evidence Op. sheets are approved and have a revision” “Is there evidence of an approved list of vendors” and so on.
Essentially I turn every action stated in every procedure and instruction in the chain into a question.
I feel I am doing a process audit as I get from one end to the other and that a checklist is appropriate, but in the end I have a lengthy audit. Is an audit of 109 questions unusual? My auditors balk at what seems like a lot of questions but how do I show we do what we say without asking the questions? Am I too deep in the weeds with my questions? And I am newly RABQSA auditing certified (though I never got to get to this question for my first party audits). Sorry about the amount of info here!