Gman2
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I have done some digging around on this topic and a lot of the stuff I have found on here has been older information. Some of the examples I like were the matrix type procedure that lists the documents, department, retention, storage and disposal listed.
But what I have also found opens up anyother huge can of worms I think.
Other folks were recommending that the PROCEDURE that referenced the FORM or RECORD should state the record requirements.
For me that is just unthinkable for one major reason, I do not have a procedure that relates back to all of the forms and documents we use. Not even close.
For example I do not have a procedure for management review. I's not required and we do not need one. I have an AGENDA that we stick to that complies with the requirements but it is not a procedure and is not referenced anywhere.
Another example is our purchase order requests, they are controlled, but I dont have a procedure for how to fill out a PO request. The form itself handles that.
I guess take those two examples and multiply it by every document/record we keep that is NOT a part of the required 6 procedures and you will see what I'm saying.
I am really striving here to eliminate as much documentation as possible becaused the last system here was so overblown it killed everyones interest and utimatly itself. It was really bad, for instance, the CFO of the company had a 3" binder FULL of full blown procedures along with full color graphics and screen shots filled with everyting from starting his computer to the step by step usage of his PHONE! And I am dead serious.
Now I have the job of bringing eveyone back on board. I am not going to create a procedure just to have one, if it does not benefit us at all and its not required then it will not exist.
Thoughts?
But what I have also found opens up anyother huge can of worms I think.
Other folks were recommending that the PROCEDURE that referenced the FORM or RECORD should state the record requirements.
For me that is just unthinkable for one major reason, I do not have a procedure that relates back to all of the forms and documents we use. Not even close.
For example I do not have a procedure for management review. I's not required and we do not need one. I have an AGENDA that we stick to that complies with the requirements but it is not a procedure and is not referenced anywhere.
Another example is our purchase order requests, they are controlled, but I dont have a procedure for how to fill out a PO request. The form itself handles that.
I guess take those two examples and multiply it by every document/record we keep that is NOT a part of the required 6 procedures and you will see what I'm saying.
I am really striving here to eliminate as much documentation as possible becaused the last system here was so overblown it killed everyones interest and utimatly itself. It was really bad, for instance, the CFO of the company had a 3" binder FULL of full blown procedures along with full color graphics and screen shots filled with everyting from starting his computer to the step by step usage of his PHONE! And I am dead serious.
Now I have the job of bringing eveyone back on board. I am not going to create a procedure just to have one, if it does not benefit us at all and its not required then it will not exist.
Thoughts?