SteelWoman said:
We actually took a similar route when switching from QS to TS - we took the change as an opportunity to look over all our procedures, discard those we didn't need any longer, write some new ones, revise some "keepers." We wrote into our Doc/Data control procedure a quick line or two explaining that with the advent of TS we assigned an "A" revision level to every procedure. Ultimately any revisions are traceable back to the last "QS" revision, so we have traceability and we addressed it in the doc procedure for clarity.
Zat make sense?
This is what exactly I'm telling the ISO coordinator, that at least we have some traceability to look back to the last QMS we had before. The ISO coordinator is requiring us to indicate in the document the history of changes but when it comes to the documents he created, all are Initial Issues.
Wes Bucey said:
Absolutely! I never had a quarrel with the fact of starting over from scratch - my only objection was for not communicating the "WHY" to the troops. If the powers that be had taken care of just that one little detail, gheghe would never have written his post.
The moral of the story is
gheghe's organization fell down on the job of educating the employees.
I perfectly agree with you Bucey, we're always surprise in here. This ISO coordinator just told us what to do without even explaining why we have to do it, and then the next day he'll change his mind. That's the reason why even little things I post it in here, because this ISO coordinator of ours get me confuse every day. Just an example, in document control procedure, he indicated there that "all documents must have the originators name", if you take a look at our document template /format there's no alloted space for orignator, there's only the approving bodys. When I asked him this is exactly what his answer was " the approving body and originator are the same, I'm the originator and I'm the one who will approved it, even if the document is created by Purchasing dept, I am the originator and that will not be changed".So,if you will take a look at our QMS document, there's one name appear there, and he's also the one approve it(no other parties approved it), I guess Im the only one reacting on the contents of the documents he said created.(ooopps i don't think he created it, they bought this canned system)
Anyway, thanks pals for the input and ideas.