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Old 10th July 2018, 08:14 AM
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Re: Defined - Definition and meaning of "defined"

The terminology doc Sidney references defines "define" as "state or describe exactly the nature, scope or meaning of"

So I would say that writing it down is preferred and safer but technically you are not in violation of the standard if all the people who need to know this are able to verbally define the system in the same way.

I get it -- you run into hardheads sometimes and don't have the authority to force them to do it the better way. So I would document to them the dangers of not defining it in writing (CYA) and then, if they are able to verbally comply, note it that way in the audit or wherever and move on. If it later comes back to bite them in the butt, they will have to address the issue in a corrective action.

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Hi,

Is your organization DPD approved by Boeing or any other customers?
Our sole requirement comes from AS9100D only.
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The terminology doc Sidney references defines "define" as "state or describe exactly the nature, scope or meaning of"

So I would say that writing it down is preferred and safer but technically you are not in violation of the standard if all the people who need to know this are able to verbally define the system in the same way.

I get it -- you run into hardheads sometimes and don't have the authority to force them to do it the better way. So I would document to them the dangers of not defining it in writing (CYA) and then, if they are able to verbally comply, note it that way in the audit or wherever and move on. If it later comes back to bite them in the butt, they will have to address the issue in a corrective action.
Thank you, that makes sense. Appreciated.
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