Validation of Wave Solder Process - PCBA for Medical Products

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UweKoehler

Hello,

I'm urgendly looking for information and help with validating a automated wave soldering process for a PCBA.
We build a PCBA for a medical product and our customer wants us to validate the wave soldering process (the machine: starting with flux over preheat till soldering).
Before I always thougt that per GHTF it would be enough to visually check the solder joints and for hidden solder joints x-ray them. This will be verification so no validation is needed.

But our customer wants to have it validated anyway.

I now need to calculate the time, samples, manpower... needed
and I also need to write a plan, but at the moment I'm not sure what the best way is to validate it.

Is there anybody who can help me with some information, links, documents on how to validate a automated wave soldeirng process.

Thanks in Adavance

Uwe
 
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UweKoehler

Re: Validation of wave solder process

Sorry that thread did not help.

It's about hand soldering
and the IEC document inked in it is about SMT

I need some help with WAVE soldering

Uwe
 

somashekar

Leader
Admin
Hello,

I'm urgendly looking for information and help with validating a automated wave soldering process for a PCBA.
We build a PCBA for a medical product and our customer wants us to validate the wave soldering process (the machine: starting with flux over preheat till soldering).
Before I always thougt that per GHTF it would be enough to visually check the solder joints and for hidden solder joints x-ray them. This will be verification so no validation is needed.

But our customer wants to have it validated anyway.

I now need to calculate the time, samples, manpower... needed
and I also need to write a plan, but at the moment I'm not sure what the best way is to validate it.

Is there anybody who can help me with some information, links, documents on how to validate a automated wave soldeirng process.

Thanks in Adavance

Uwe
Forget Medical products.
How do you qualify the wave soldering process for a PCBA?
The solder used, The flux used, The bath temperature, The wave height, The zone temperatures, The chain speed,
That is about it. Are you in control of your wave soldering process ? As you answer this question you are validating.
PS: Also include operator qualification.
 
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Mikishots

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Hello,

I'm urgendly looking for information and help with validating a automated wave soldering process for a PCBA.
We build a PCBA for a medical product and our customer wants us to validate the wave soldering process (the machine: starting with flux over preheat till soldering).
Before I always thougt that per GHTF it would be enough to visually check the solder joints and for hidden solder joints x-ray them. This will be verification so no validation is needed.

But our customer wants to have it validated anyway.

I now need to calculate the time, samples, manpower... needed
and I also need to write a plan, but at the moment I'm not sure what the best way is to validate it.

Is there anybody who can help me with some information, links, documents on how to validate a automated wave soldeirng process.

Thanks in Adavance

Uwe

Validation would include the variables you can control, as noted by Somashekar. If you decide to go the route of inspecting the final product and conducting x-ray examination, are you planning to do this for ALL PCBA's coming off the machine? By far the most effective and simplest method would be to record your process variables on a continuing basis and compare them against the process parameters that you know will produce a conforming part. it's only a pain right now because you haven't started doing it yet.

You've claimed the ability to identify a conforming part, so the metrics used in the comparison are already in place.

At my workplace (aerospace), one of the processes that falls into this area is plating of aluminum. Sure, we can check the final product (by sending out coupons to external labs), but the volume is high - by the time we get results back, many lots have been processed in that time. The only viable method is to validate the process itself - that way, we know immediately when things get out of whack, saving ourselves money and risk by being able to stop and address the issue BEFORE the customer receives the product.
 
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JaxQC

One way is to always start with a PFD (Process Flow Diagram) & pFMEA to understand what factors to address in the validation.

(made up just for examples but the idea is there)

solder used – document evidence that it is the correct type, how production verifies or can’t use the wrong one

flux used – 1) document evidence that it is the correct type, how production verifies or can’t use the wrong one 2) Too much / little =adjust equipment to your process spec settings for both extremes, confirm you still get good parts

bath temperature - zone temperatures – Too hot is a negligible difference (document justification but may not need to trial) but too cold is a product recall so confirm validation trial parts with process set at worst case low still produces good product.

zone temperatures – Too hot/cold = trial at both end of the spec- confirm do you get good parts

chain speed – too fast (not enough solder) / slow (too much, puddling) = adjust equipment & trial at both end of the spec- confirm do you get good parts

operator qualification – what qualification? certification required?, training?, quality checks (manual/automatic)? etc
 

FranK_SP

Registered
Hello,

Our customer ask us to perform process validation of SMD/Wave soldering process. We think that IQ, OQ, PQ is feasable, but I think that we have a weak point to define the number of samples and acceptability criteria using statistical methods for justification.
Based in our experience we make visual inspection of the soldering of the first 5 PCBA of the batch. Later, 100% of the batch is functionally inspected (electrical tests). this KPI is based in our experience and it works, but it not justified by statistical methods.

Could you please give us any hints of which kind of KPI we could use to monitor the process?? make sense inspect by batch using a AQL?

Thank you for your help.

best regards,

Fran
 

FranK_SP

Registered
Hello,

Our customer ask us to perform process validation of SMD/Wave soldering process. We think that IQ, OQ, PQ is feasable, but I think that we have a weak point to define the number of samples and acceptability criteria using statistical methods for justification.
Based in our experience we make visual inspection of the soldering of the first 5 PCBA of the batch. Later, 100% of the batch is functionally inspected (electrical tests). this KPI is based in our experience and it works, but it not justified by statistical methods.

Could you please give us any hints of which kind of KPI we could use to monitor the process?? make sense inspect by batch using a AQL?

Thank you for your help.

best regards,

Fran
any feedback for you guys?

Thank you :)
 
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