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Old 11th February 2017, 05:51 PM
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Re: ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard

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why US did create its own (ILO-OSH based) ANSI Z10 standard without using it...?
in a nutshell, to show "those Europeans" that we can develop standards too.

Unfortunately, for the Z10 crowd, very few stakeholders care about that standard.

After ISO 26000, 37001, ISO is now developing a corporate governance standard. No aspect of corporate business to be left untouched. Obviously all of the standards have been through the justification proposal.

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Old 16th February 2017, 04:41 AM
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Hello Sidney !

But "these Europeans" haven't any OSHMS standard... only the british people.

Bye.
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Old 16th February 2017, 06:10 AM
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Its not rocket science to line up all of the ISOs I dont get these "People" holding up the new standard. Hopefully once the UK is out of Europe we can get back to doing what we do best - World Class and not have to follow Brussels.. the Europeans dont.. there not interested in safety.. the Brits are..
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Old 16th February 2017, 10:54 AM
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Hehehe... Re: ISO 45001 - Occupational Health and Safety Management Standard

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But "these Europeans" haven't any OSHMS standard... only the british people..
How can you say that? I've already listed to you all the organizations that co-wrote the OHSAS 18001 standard and many of them are from Europe.
So, the OHSAS 18001 standard is a truly international standard, with more than 100,000 organizations certified to it. So much revenue stream that ISO decided to get in the game...

Au revoir...
Thanks to Sidney Vianna for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 16th February 2017, 11:55 AM
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How can you say that? I've already listed to you all the organizations that co-wrote the OHSAS 18001 standard and many of them are from Europe.
So, the OHSAS 18001 standard is a truly international standard, with more than 100,000 organizations certified to it. So much revenue stream that ISO decided to get in the game...

Au revoir...
It's a cultural thing probably
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Old 22nd March 2017, 02:33 PM
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Are we going to have a new standard or not?
Meanwhile registrations under OHSAS 18001 are still being done...
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Old 22nd March 2017, 02:45 PM
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Found this online:

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A second draft international standard (DIS2) is expected to be published in April of this year; there will then be a 4 month period to allow for translations and a ballot to be held on the DIS2.

The results of the ballot should be known by the end of July 2017 with the results of this being reviewed in September 2017.

If DIS2 is approved and the final draft international standard (FDIS) stage is not required, publication of the new standard could be as early as November 2017.
However, if an FDIS is required, the publication is more likely to be in Q2 2018
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Old 5th April 2017, 03:16 AM
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Below is an article I published on LinkedIn covering the development of ISO 45001 and why it takes so long to produce a new standard like this.
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This article was published today on Bywater's site and covers the latest stage of development of the first ISO standard for occupational health & safety management.

3rd Apr, 2017 | Auditing, OHSAS 18001 The latest news from PC 283, the project committee developing the ISO 45001 standard, indicates development is returning to course and it could even be published by the end of 2017. Even though this news is welcomed in many parts the process from here is not assured and, in much the same way that true love never runs smooth, I am sure there will be hiccoughs along the way and more heated discussion behind closed doors.

DIS ISO 45001 is a new management system standard (MSS) and there is huge interest in the first ISO standard for occupational health & safety management. There are 67 countries participating in development, as well as liaisons including other ISO committees with an interest in management systems and conformity assessment and a further 10 independent organisations involved in occupational health & safety, both Nationally and Internationally. Each participating country and liaison organisation has a view of what ISO 45001 should look like and, when the 60 or so delegates arrive at each meeting to work on the text to appear in the standard it is not surprising that there should be disagreement. Whatever background the technical expert attending the ISO committee has will influence the position they take at the working group and, in the background, most national standards bodies will have a mirror committee or group debating what the country position should be. It is easy for different approaches to lead to difficulties in getting to the consensus that all standards require before they can proceed. If you represent an NGO interested in promoting occupational health, for example, you may be pushing for higher standards while another group member represents a conformity assessment body interested in ensuring the standard can be assessed easily with existing auditors.

You only have to look at a selection from common text used in ISO Directives to see the scale of some of the challenges to standards development. Any MSS should:

be applicable to organisations of every size, across sectors and cultures
permit free trade of goods and services in line with WTO rules
be easily understood, unambiguous, and easily translatable
It is no surprise a standard can sometimes bog down, in fact it is more surprising that any meaningful standard is ever produced.

If you would like to be kept updated on the progress of ISO 45001 please email contact@bywater.co.uk

Paul Simpson

Bywater Associate

Providing consultancy and training on quality strategy and implementation.
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