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Old 18th April 2018, 10:36 AM
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Let Me Help You Re: ISO 9001 certification of the new plant before start of production

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We are setting up a new plant in Mexico where we will transfer the production from our main and already certified plant in China. Our customer request at least ISO 9001 certification of the new plant before starting deliveries to them. Can we do the ISO9001 certification before starting the production? I can not find any requirement in ISO document about how long you need to run the production before you can ask for certification, however here in China, there is a 3 months of running production requirement requested by company who is in charge of ISO certification. Does anybody here have any information about such kind of requirement in Mexico? I need some written official document about this requirement which I could refer to for discussion with customer. Thank you very much in advance.
It's not in ISO 9001. ISO 9001 isn't about certification and there are no "rules" about how much you have to do, in terms of time frames. A CB might tell you "3 months" but that's a complete guess on their part. If the time it takes you to complete your (manufacturing) processes, deliver products and get customer feedback etc, takes 9 months, then you'll have to wait at least 9 months before you can be certified. Which function at your customer is asking for certification? Purchasing? Quality?

If their Quality people know anything about certification, they should understand this and they could straighten out the Purchasing people.

If you know which CB you are going to use they may issue a "letter of intent" once you have signed a registration agreement which may be sufficient.
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Trust me - I worked for registrars (and others will also tell you) there's NO point in talking to any Registrar. You don't have a Quality System if you aren't in production... Therefore you have nothing to implement and you cannot even begin to talk to the things needed to show a Registrar.
I would recommend talking to the registrar for getting a timeline for registration of the new site to communicated to the customers
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Old 18th April 2018, 12:37 PM
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I would recommend talking to the registrar for getting a timeline for registration of the new site to communicated to the customers
Depending on the choice - and we don't know who this OP is going to use (if they even have a choice), for the most part 90 days is a typical lead time. Even that's up in the air...
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