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Old 1st January 2009, 09:58 PM
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I am in agreement that forms are not required to be controlled, only records. However, if your procedures statethat you will control all forms, then "do what yu say". I have begun to "separate" the forms from the procedure. I do keep them controlled but not to the requirement of any procedure.

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Roger:

Welcome to the Cove.

I'm surprised to see you appending your comments to such an old thread. There is a sub forum for dealing with document control issues. We had some lively debate over this very topic recently which you may wish to check out here http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=31314

The one you connected to is about Corrective action, as the main "theme'.

You may have to change your decision though, because you run the risk of not being in compliance with many QMS standards.....

Come back soon and tell us what else you've been up to!

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Re: Corrective Action Does Not Prevent Reocurrence!

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I am in agreement that forms are not required to be controlled, only records. However, if your procedures statethat you will control all forms, then "do what yu say". I have begun to "separate" the forms from the procedure. I do keep them controlled but not to the requirement of any procedure.

Roger

Ummm...the standard requires "Documents required by the quality management system shall be controlled." Cl 4.2.3.

If there are forms in your QMS, they would need to be controlled just like any other document. This is pretty well established.
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