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Old 27th February 2014, 03:42 PM
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Hi! Yes I just acquire the following: PPAP, APQP, MSA, FMEA and SPC books.

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Old 27th February 2014, 03:50 PM
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Hi! Yes I just acquire the following: PPAP, APQP, MSA, FMEA and SPC books.
Good. THe PPAP, APQP, MSA and FMEA manuals all have copies of forms in them. All you have to do is compare the forms available here to the ones in the manuals in order to determine whether they're appropriate or not. Note that in some cases, such as the forms in the PPAP manual, you can use your own forms ("a convenient format") so long as the provide the same information as the ones in the manual.
Thanks to Jim Wynne for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 27th February 2014, 05:55 PM
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Thank you, you were to helpful.
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Old 19th May 2014, 10:45 AM
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Good. THe PPAP, APQP, MSA and FMEA manuals all have copies of forms in them. All you have to do is compare the forms available here to the ones in the manuals in order to determine whether they're appropriate or not. Note that in some cases, such as the forms in the PPAP manual, you can use your own forms ("a convenient format") so long as the provide the same information as the ones in the manual.
-HELLO! I need help regarding the PPAP, I need to deliver our first one this comming Wednesday and to be honest I would like a little help with the following:

* How many documents do I need to deliver (e.g. appendix C, D, and E are very similar)?
* Can some one show me an example of a full PPAP to use it as guide!?

Thank you very much.
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Old 19th May 2014, 11:39 AM
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-HELLO! I need help regarding the PPAP, I need to deliver our first one this comming Wednesday and to be honest I would like a little help with the following:

* How many documents do I need to deliver (e.g. appendix C, D, and E are very similar)?
* Can some one show me an example of a full PPAP to use it as guide!?

Thank you very much.
You need to submit all of the documents required by your customer. This can vary widely. If you are not sure what needs to be submitted, ask the customer. If you've been told to submit a level-3 PPAP, the list of requirements is on 18 of the 4th edition PPAP manual. Keep in mind that the various PPAP submission levels control only what gets submitted; you're expected to complete all of the relevant elements and keep on file the ones that don't get submitted.

The forms in appendices C, D and E are similar but different. "C" is for dimensional results, "D" is for material test results and "E" is for performance test results. You are not necessarily required to use those forms, but what you do use should provide all of the required information.

You should not use anyone else's PPAP as a guide, because, as I said, customer requirements and expectations differ. It's not unusual for customer representatives to not understand their own requirements, or those of the PPAP manual.
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Just checking some old discussion threads and links.

Has anything changed in the last 10 years?
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Just checking some old discussion threads and links.

Has anything changed in the last 10 years?
This post explains.
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