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Old 29th November 2008, 10:39 AM
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Let Me Help You What are APQP and PPAP?

Sir,

What are APQP and PPAP? What do they used for and why do we need it. I am just a QE beginner!

Thank Master

Last edited by Stijloor; 29th November 2008 at 10:54 AM. Reason: Fixed typo's.

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Old 29th November 2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: What are APQP and PPAP?

APQP = Advanced Product Quality Planning
APQP is the entire quality planning process from designing a concept through PPAP (see below). This typically includes, but is not limited to, Design/Process FMEAs, Measurement System Analysis, capability studies, Control Plans and PPAP.
PPAP = Product Part Approval Process
PPAP is the approval process for the product. It includes the major elements of APQP listed above, plus dimensional, material and performance verifications.
Note: this is far from inclusive. AIAG publishes manuals for each of the topics listed above.
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Old 29th November 2008, 10:59 AM
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Sir,

What are APQP and PPAP? What do they used for and why do we need it. I am just a QE beginner!

Thank Master
An advanced search on The Cove Forumes on APQP and PPAP revealed this.

There's a lot of information contained in each of these links. Please study, and post if you have specific questions. Happy to help.

Stijloor.
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Old 29th November 2008, 11:06 AM
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Re: What are APQP and PPAP?

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APQP = Advanced Product Quality Planning
APQP is the entire quality planning process from designing a concept through PPAP (see below). This typically includes, but is not limited to, Design/Process FMEAs, Measurement System Analysis, capability studies, Control Plans and PPAP.
PPAP = Product Part Approval Process
PPAP is the approval process for the product. It includes the major elements of APQP listed above, plus dimensional, material and performance verifications.
Note: this is far from inclusive. AIAG publishes manuals for each of the topics listed above.

Let's take First Piece Qualification (FQP) as a mile stone. Should the above documents be made before or after the FPQ? We have some other documents such as MPP (Manufacturing Process Plan), PQP (Product Quality Plan or Inspection and Test Plan). Can you advise about the sequence of document? For example, we need MPP + PQP for FPQ. After FPQ we will make APQP, PPAP for mass production?



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Old 29th November 2008, 11:35 AM
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Let's take First Piece Qualification (FQP) as a mile stone. Should the above documents be made before or after the FPQ? We have some other documents such as MPP (Manufacturing Process Plan), PQP (Product Quality Plan or Inspection and Test Plan). Can you advise about the sequence of document? For example, we need MPP + PQP for FPQ. After FPQ we will make APQP, PPAP for mass production?



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As our Fellow Cover Miner indicated, APQP covers the entire product planning process. APQP provides you with guidelines. So, it would help if you study the APQP activity. Have you already purchased the APQP Manual?

As far as PPAP is concerned, your customer will tell you what they need from you. The customer will specifiy contractually what they want and the required submission level. Event though the PPAP Manual spells out the requirements, the customer selects those that will apply to you. Also keep in mind that different customers have different PPAP submission requirements. You should obtain the manuals and study them.

Hope this helps.

Stijloor.
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Old 29th November 2008, 12:19 PM
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Re: What are APQP and PPAP?

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Let's take First Piece Qualification (FQP) as a mile stone. Should the above documents be made before or after the FPQ? We have some other documents such as MPP (Manufacturing Process Plan), PQP (Product Quality Plan or Inspection and Test Plan). Can you advise about the sequence of document? For example, we need MPP + PQP for FPQ. After FPQ we will make APQP, PPAP for mass production?
MPP and PQP are part of APQP. The bulk of APQP occurs prior to FPQ. FPQ is one aspect of the PPAP, typically the dimensional verification.
Thanks to Miner for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 30th November 2008, 06:22 AM
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Re: What are APQP and PPAP?

APQP and PPAP Basics.
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Old 9th March 2009, 10:07 AM
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MPP and PQP are part of APQP. The bulk of APQP occurs prior to FPQ. FPQ is one aspect of the PPAP, typically the dimensional verification.
Hi Miner

Another question has came up to me. What is different between Process Control Plan and a Product Quality Plan. Sorry to ask you about some very basic question!!

Thank you in advance for you kind help

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