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View Poll Results: Which is the best flowchart software for QS/ISO documentation.
AllClear 13 5.80%
iGrafx Flowcharter 13 5.80%
ConceptDraw 0 0%
SmartDraw 23 10.27%
Visio (MickeySoft) 134 59.82%
Drawing tools in Office 41 18.30%
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Old 4th December 2001, 08:13 PM
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Question What Flowchart Software Do You Use for Procedures and other Documentation?

I am in the beginnings of a QS9000 implementation at a small manufacturing company and it seems that flowcharting will be the best way to document procedures, work instructions and such. I am trying to decide what software we should purchase. I have already excluded Visio as it is at the top of the price list, and it's an MSnot product.
The packages I am currently considering are Allclear, ConceptDraw, Smartdraw and iGrafx Flowcharter. I would greatly appreciate input from people who have used any of these products. I am looking for the best features and drawbacks (particularly the ones that you don't find until after purchasing). I am particularly interested in features which are relative to the QS/ISO docuymentation process.

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Old 5th December 2001, 03:57 AM
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All Clear would be my choice, but from the tone of your post you might want to look into a product such as MPACT that will do flow charting as well as control the entire product development process.

I like MPACT and there are also other products on the market that will do basically the same thing, I favor them because of their service and pricing structure.

www.integralsolutions.com

One I would stay away from is Powerway [edit] a source I have told me that Chrysler backed out of the deal and there may be no Powerway in the future. Also that Ford and G.M. want no part of an online service at this time.

Marc, I'm not sure if I am crossing the line here so edit as applicable. No response needed.
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Old 5th December 2001, 06:07 AM
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I Say...

As long as you've used it, you can talk about it. But - If you're going to say 'Don't Buy' - please explain why.

I ask people not to simply leave it like you did - saying 'e-mail me and I'll tell you why they suck' in so many words. That's not fair, in my opinion.

If you don't like Powerway (now part of Chrysler) please explain why from experience or don't even mention them.
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Old 5th December 2001, 11:44 AM
energy

 
 
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Hehehe... Hey Hey Hey

Why should price be a reason, other than being a MSnot program, for excluding Visio? There may be those, like me, who don't see their program of choice and can't can't cast their ballot!
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Old 5th December 2001, 11:51 AM
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Re: Hey Hey Hey

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Originally posted by energy
Why should price be a reason, other than being a MSnot program, for excluding Visio? There may be those, like me, who don't see their program of choice and can't can't cast their ballot!
Tell me what program you want added to the poll and I'll add it so you can vote. Just for you... But - if you look at the original post, I think the idea was to get opinions on the 4 Jeff is considering.
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Old 5th December 2001, 11:51 AM
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I'm with you Energy.....I vote for Visio.
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Old 5th December 2001, 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Sporty
I'm with you Energy.....I vote for Visio.
An explaination why would be nice!

One other thought - have either of you used SmartDraw or any of the others? For example, SmartDraw will do everything Visio will do (including integration into MS Office) and is cheaper. Do you choose the most expensive product over features?

To finish off, MicroSoft is moving to the 'rental' model which these others are not doing - so, every year you'll have to pay for Visio or - they'll turn it off.
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Old 5th December 2001, 12:04 PM
energy

 
 
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You got it.

Nothing like cutting to the chase. You're right there. I have used only Excel and Word before Visio. So, I'm easily impressed. But, I think that most voters would not have used all the choices either. You old timers, like Al D and you have a better shot at comparing. What you will see is the applause for the most popular. It would be interesting to ask all the voters the same thing?

Looking back at the original post, I see said the blind man!

Last edited by energy; 5th December 2001 at 12:07 PM.
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