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View Poll Results: Which is the best flowchart software for QS/ISO documentation.
AllClear 13 5.80%
iGrafx Flowcharter 13 5.80%
ConceptDraw 0 0%
SmartDraw 23 10.27%
Visio (MickeySoft) 134 59.82%
Drawing tools in Office 41 18.30%
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Old 5th December 2001, 07:18 PM
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I have used both the iGrafx and Visio software for flowcharting,but don't feel happy enough with either of them to actually vote.

As powerfull, versitile diagramming software (flowcharts, org charts, network diagrams, office layouts, network diagrams, etc, they are good and the iGrafx "Process" softwarwe is amazing for analysing the performance of processes and discovering bottlenecks, eg bank teller staffing processes etc.
They are however far more than most people, I feel, need for documenting an ISO/QS system, and that is their weakness. Far to much on offer when you just want a simple job.

My flow charts only use 3 basic shapes, Start (and Stop), a box for a single step, a diamond for a descision point. Anymore I find confuse people and are not necessary.

I want to push a program called 4TQ (I am just a user, not affiliated with them in ANY way).
The flow charting package of 4TQ offers just the basic symbols (a few more than I mentioned but they are just for layout) but it also enables you to produce fully formated Word (or any other WP) documents containing both the chart and any background details you add. It enables you to cross reference the whole flowchart it'self, or individual steps to an ISO/QS clause. It lets you link other flow charts or other documents (Word doc's, spreadsheet, database's, web pages, etc) to steps, and it has an integrated Audit scheduling and checklist production system.

Integrating 4TQFlow with anthoer program 4TQExplorer give you a complete ISO/QS/ISM/etc management system, with full audit scheduleing, crossreferencing, SPC, compliance referencing, and full website production. A screenshot is attached. (Excuse the caution signs indicating an audit is overdue).

Sorry to go on like this but this program has been a Godsend for me and I thought others would like to know (I guess I'm just a "raving fan").
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Old 5th December 2001, 08:03 PM
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Sporty,

Don't sweat the small things, we all have opinions and questions. And neither is wrong! Every participating member of this board is respected for both their questions and answers.

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Old 5th December 2001, 11:36 PM
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Thumbs up 4TQ Flow Charting Software

> Sorry to go on like this but this program has been a
> Godsend for me and I thought others would like to know

James:

Very good evaluation. The length of your post is irrelevant and the passion is to be expected with respect to something you like. I have not heard of this specific program before, but it is better to know about than not to. Thank you!
  Post Number #20  
Old 7th December 2001, 04:00 PM
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Afternoon,

I have AllClear and really don't care for it. My boss uses it. Copying the chart into word is almost impossible. I much prefer Microsoft products.

Guess if I could figure out how to copy and paste and be able to edit it in Word I'd like it more.


Michelle
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Old 7th December 2001, 04:39 PM
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Or at no cost for Word users, you can use the flowcharting option included in the program. It's not as powerfull as the other programs but it is good for easy flow charts.
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Old 7th December 2001, 07:16 PM
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Easy Stuff

Quote:
Originally posted by choices
Afternoon,
I have AllClear and really don't care for it. My boss uses it. Copying the chart into word is almost impossible. I much prefer Microsoft products.
Guess if I could figure out how to copy and paste and be able to edit it in Word I'd like it more.
Michelle
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I don't know where Adobe falls in but I can go from "Word" to "Visio" to "Adobe" (and any combination),so easy it defies description, except, that is so "easy" I want easy, no brainer stuff! If M.S. allows me to have that, give it here! I don't need to look at other stuff just because it may be popular to be "bashin" M.S. or demonstate my "intellectual"..... Did you vote in the poll? Welcome to the Cove! :smokin

Last edited by energy; 7th December 2001 at 07:27 PM.
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Old 7th December 2001, 08:05 PM
Al Dyer

 
 
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Energy, (and any others!)

Have you ever used just Word to do a flow chart?
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Old 8th December 2001, 06:47 AM
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Flowcharting

Hello Group,

Quote:
Have you ever used just Word to do a flow chart?
I do. Of course I haven't really tried these other programs. Word does a nice job, and it is easy to use (once you've played with it a while).
The other system I am working on is a CAD system (AUTOCAD). I found that I can copy my charts and documents from word to AUTOCAD and then I can enlarge or shrink the docs to create an overview with drilldown capability. Not as nice as some other systems I'm sure, but functional.

I do have a demo version of smart draw on my computer but haven't had much chance to play with it.

James
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