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Old 24th September 2014, 11:24 AM
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Question ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

General question - Did ISO consider how the 2015 changes would affect other regulatory (i.e..FAA, CASA, PNG 173, etc..) requirements? Example - 2015 will not require a Quality Manual. The regulatory agencies listed above still require a manual that addresses how Quality will be implemented.

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Thread moved to a more appropriate sub-forum dealing with either the 2015 version.

Last edited by Marc; 24th September 2014 at 11:37 AM. Reason: Moved thread & reword.
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Old 24th September 2014, 11:43 AM
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

For those of us following along:

CASA = ?
PNG 173 = ?

Edit add. This appears to be aviation so I may move this thread to that forum and leave a redirect here.

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Old 24th September 2014, 11:58 AM
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

CASA = Civil Aviation Safety Authority

PNG 173 = Papua New Guinea Civil Aviation Rules Part 173
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Old 24th September 2014, 12:35 PM
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General question - Did ISO consider how the 2015 changes would affect other regulatory (i.e..FAA, CASA, PNG 173, etc..) requirements? Example - 2015 will not require a Quality Manual. The regulatory agencies listed above still require a manual that addresses how Quality will be implemented.
The technical committees will probably have considered this, however, since it's likely to be a customer requirement in many industries - and the standard doesn't prohibit a QM being created - you will want to do whatever satisfies the customer...whether the standard specifically says anything about a manual or not.
Thanks to AndyN for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 25th September 2014, 11:29 AM
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

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General question - Did ISO consider how the 2015 changes would affect other regulatory (i.e..FAA, CASA, PNG 173, etc..) requirements? Example - 2015 will not require a Quality Manual. The regulatory agencies listed above still require a manual that addresses how Quality will be implemented.
It was definitely considered - but of course, keep in mind, ISO is not a regulation - it's adopted as part of a business model.

I'm in Canada, and we manufacture aircraft. We have our QMS certified to the AS9100C standard, and our regulation that we follow (among others) is the Canadian Aviation Regulation 561 - Approved Manufacturers. It requires a manual with very specific content.

So....we have a manual and will continue to have one after the release of the new standard.
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

Hi Not sure about PNG but CASA (Part 145) and also EASA require a detailed Maintenance Organisation Exposition (MOE) in a very specific format to satisfy their requirements and formal approval.
It includes a Section detailing the Quality System in place.

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Old 7th October 2014, 03:43 AM
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

Agree with Mikishots. Our QMS is also certified to AS9100C standard, however to quote our EASA auditor, "We (UKCAA) don't recognise ISO whilst auditing, we audit against the applicable EASA regulations".

In the aerospace industry, we tend to have a one size fits all QMS which will still require an MOE and specific EASA approved Quality Manual and procedures.
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