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Old 20th October 2014, 04:56 PM
Del Foster

 
 
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

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General question - Did ISO consider how the 2015 changes would affect other regulatory (i.e..FAA, CASA, PNG 173, etc..) requirements? Example - 2015 will not require a Quality Manual. The regulatory agencies listed above still require a manual that addresses how Quality will be implemented.
Eliminating the requirement for a quality manual does not mean an organization should not or can not have one. Most quality manuals that I have seen merely restate the requirements and provide a very weak description of the "requirements" for scope, exclusions and description of process interactions that provide very little value for the organization or registration auditors. The primary reason for a quality manual (level 1) and most of the level 2 implementing documents are for information and training. If instead of restating the clause by clause requirements of the standard in the quality manual provide a realistic policy statement (overall intention and direction) regarding the organization's approach to managing those requirements. This highest level policy direction can then be deployed through the lower level documents which answer the questions what, why, who, when, where and how through a series of process diagrams and procedural details that can be used by instructors (process leaders) to train, operators to perform, auditors to assess and produce the records to demonstrate compliance. The old acronym, TQM becomes TCM and total Compliance management can be realized. Top down policy deployment becomes a reality.

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Old 22nd July 2016, 01:59 AM
K.M.MOORTHI

 
 
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

Hi everyone.
We are in ISO 9001:2008 now our organisation wants to move on to ISO 9001:2015
Anyone suggest the road map for that.
thanks in advance.
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Old 22nd July 2016, 01:01 PM
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

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General question - Did ISO consider how the 2015 changes would affect other regulatory (i.e..FAA, CASA, PNG 173, etc..) requirements? Example - 2015 will not require a Quality Manual. The regulatory agencies listed above still require a manual that addresses how Quality will be implemented.
ISO 9001:2008 had a shall for the quality manual. 2015 says the organization shall have documented information to the extent necessary based on COTO (Context of the Organization).

If you are XXX and ZZZ compliance in addition to ISO 9001, the context of the organization recognizes that. If XXX says you need a quality manual, than THAT is part of the documented information necessary.

Too many people get hung up on the "no quality manual" thing. Ask most companies "are you getting rid of your manual?" and they say "heck no, it works for us!"

Same with the Management Representative. Are all companies firing the Quality Manager because the process owners got it under control now? 'Fraid not.

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Hi everyone.
We are in ISO 9001:2008 now our organisation wants to move on to ISO 9001:2015
Anyone suggest the road map for that.
thanks in advance.
Look at what you have, and look at what you need (a.k.a. gap assessment).

Spend the time FIRST on COTO and defining boundaries. That will really help define the next stages.

Plan ahead: Realize what you really need (get rid of the fluff) and plan the system from a system approach. An example is if you are small and one procedure works for control of nonconforming outputs and corrective action, as they are interrelated matters, more power to you.

Either 1) Modify the things you have into what you need or 2) start with a clean slate and steal from what you have into the new format.

Also, check out this thread:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=68430
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Old 24th July 2016, 10:27 PM
K.M.MOORTHI

 
 
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Re: ISO 9001:2015 vs. FAA, CASA, PNG 173 Requirements

Thank u for yours valuable addition...
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