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Old 17th June 2016, 09:29 AM
Mike S.

 
 
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Please Help! "Context of the Organization" in 4.1 of ISO 9001:2015

One of these days I am gonna have to delve into ISO9001-2015 and AS9100 D and help us get there. I have spent almost no time on this yet, but the first weird (to me) thing I came across in a quick scan was section 4 -- context of the organization. And I wondered, gee, how did I ever get along without that?



I guess I am dense, but I read the words in 4.1 in the standard and it kinda registered to me as "blah, blah, blah...blah blah". Can someone please explain this section better than the standard did?

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Old 17th June 2016, 09:54 AM
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Re: Context of the Organization

Does your company have a business plan? If it does what are the Strength, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats that will help achieve that goal defined in the business plan? That is 4.1
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Old 17th June 2016, 11:28 AM
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Re: Context of the Organization

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Does your company have a business plan? If it does what are the Strength, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats that will help achieve that goal defined in the business plan? That is 4.1
That makes a hell of a lot more sense than that blather in the standard!
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Old 17th June 2016, 11:32 AM
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Re: Context of the Organization

IT took me a long time to understand 4.1. I must have read it 100 times and after listening to our CEO's Business Plan a light came one.
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Old 17th June 2016, 02:37 PM
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Re: "Context of the Organization" in 4.1 of ISO 9001

I don't feel so dense then! Thanks!
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Old 17th June 2016, 04:47 PM
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Re: "Context of the Organization" in 4.1 of ISO 9001

Actually you cannot understand the organization and its context (4.1) without first understanding the needs and expectations of interested parties (4.2). The Standard writers got the order wrong but once you address 4.2 you will find 4.1 much easier to define.
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Old 19th June 2016, 08:39 AM
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Re: "Context of the Organization" in 4.1 of ISO 9001

What is the purpose of your organization existing and sustaining over time... (be specific)
What environment are you operating in... (scale, geography, standard, custom, general, high precision, technology specialization ...)
Who are interested in your organization and what is the organization response to meet the requirement. >> The organization people, the share holders, the suppliers, the customers, the statutory and regulatory, associates, ..... may be you identify specific others.
A grip on this entirety commonly understood by the people who are the management and the decision makers, is your organization context.
This is not static, and changes that happens within or in the environment or in the interested parties have to be addressed as and when it comes up.

Last edited by Stijloor; 19th June 2016 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Typo.
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Old 20th June 2016, 07:46 AM
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Re: "Context of the Organization" in 4.1 of ISO 9001

This whole requirement sounds like fluff and a waste of time to me.
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