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Old 7th April 2017, 05:43 AM
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Re: is slitted sheet metal bulk material

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Master coils would be considered bulk material because of how they are produced by the mill. I think even slit coils would already fall outside. But, I think your product would no longer qualify. However, that is really not the correct issue. The AIAG PPAP manual supports the idea of a family or group of parts being covered on one PPAP. the auditor is wrong on that part.

Also, TS does not require AIAG PPAP. That is a customer requirement. Some customers require that format, and some require a similar but different format. TS only requires that a Product Approval method approved by the customer be used (cl 7.3.6.3). If the customer says you can combine them into one, then it is fine. The auditor cannot specify beyond what the customer requires in this context.
Thank you. I know we are supplying bulk materials but this detailed reason why our PPAPs are somewhat different from the widget suppliers, is somewhat new to me.

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Old 7th April 2017, 10:19 PM
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Re: is slitted sheet metal bulk material

Thanks Helmut,
actually, our customer never ask us to submit PPAP, the TUV SUD - TS auditor required, otherwise, she will not close non-conformance.
their auditor is very stubbon.
the key issue is our slitted sheet is bulk or not, TUV-RHINE, BV, BSI consider it as bulk.
if it is bulk, no need PPAP or to customer requirement.
how come it is a production part? I don't understand.
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