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Old 9th October 2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

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Customer-specific requirements (in the sense you're using) exist as a supplement to TS16949. Because VW isn't a subscriber to that standard, there will be no CSRs like there are for GM, etc.
Maybe this was true but

Rules 3rd edition page 5
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This document has been originated by the International Automotive Task Force (IATF) whose members consist of the following nine (9) OEMs: BMW Group, Chrysler LLC, Daimler AG, Fiat Group Automobiles, Ford Motor Company, General Motors Corporation, PSA Peugeot Citroen, Renault and Volkswagen AG and the following five (5) national associations ANFIA, AIAG, FIEV, SMMT and VDA.
These (nine (9) OEMs: BMW Group, Chrysler LLC, Daimler AG, Fiat Group Automobiles, Ford Motor Company, General Motors Corporation, PSA Peugeot Citroen, Renault and Volkswagen AG ) are the subscribing members and auditors have to give precedence to their products.

Just because other companies use different methods dos not change the facts.
The Big 3 CSR's are in fact remarkably lacking in the actual requirements from the suppliers, and only regurgitate the standard without actually documenting real requirements that are in other documents. They remind me of Quality Manuals of some companies that just have to say it all again!

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Old 9th October 2009, 12:04 PM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

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Maybe this was true but

Rules 3rd edition page 5


These (nine (9) OEMs: BMW Group, Chrysler LLC, Daimler AG, Fiat Group Automobiles, Ford Motor Company, General Motors Corporation, PSA Peugeot Citroen, Renault and Volkswagen AG ) are the subscribing members and auditors have to give precedence to their products.

Just because other companies use different methods dos not change the facts.
The Big 3 CSR's are in fact remarkably lacking in the actual requirements from the suppliers, and only regurgitate the standard without actually documenting real requirements that are in other documents. They remind me of Quality Manuals of some companies that just have to say it all again!
Thanks, Howard. I'm behind the times I guess, and should have laid off this one.
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Old 12th October 2009, 11:02 AM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

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Look at this post + attachment from our friend Howard Atkins.

Stijloor.
Also look at the following attachments. ( don't know if they are the latest versions )

Best regards,

Antoine
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Old 21st July 2011, 12:55 PM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

We are in the middle of an ISO/TS 16949 surveillance audit and our auditor is
> asking for a customer specific requirement from VW which we are Tier 4
> supplier. Our direct customer is not mandating this requirement to us. Are we
> obliged to get this directly from VW? The auditor said this might be a major
> nonconformance. Do you agree with this? What are the conditions that we need
> to comply with respect to this requirement from ISO/TS?
>
> In the future customer that we have when we are at least 2nd Tier supplier to
> an automotive, do we really need to secure the automotive customer's customer
> specific requirement? Please advice what we need to do.
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Old 21st July 2011, 01:35 PM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

I do not agree.

You are required to to as YOUR customer requires.
As you are not a supplier to VW you do not have access to their documents.

Ask him to show you where in the standard it says that you must work according to the OEM and not your customer.
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Old 8th August 2011, 04:24 AM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

Totally agree with Howard.

For those that are in the situation where the VW requirements are necessary, see attachment fot the latest list I have seen.

I do not have an English version of the list.

Best regards,

Antoine
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Old 14th October 2016, 06:12 AM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

HI guys.

Sorry for raising old subject, but I need help.

How does VW mark significant char's on the drawing and other documentation?

Is it *?

Thanks.

Danijel
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Old 4th March 2017, 12:59 PM
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Re: Volkswagen Customer Specific Requirements.

Volkswagen is a subscriber to ISO/TS 16949, VW is one of the 9 subscribing customers that make up the IATF. But, they don't push TS, they go by VDA and Former Q
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