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Old 15th March 2013, 01:47 PM
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Re: General Safety Question - Possibly fatal air embolisms caused by air hoses

I'm sure there are pieces of equipment that uses air to "inject" drugs instead of using a needle. If that's true then I'm sure smaller molecules in air would be easier to get into the vascular system.

BTW, I also got taught that hand cupping over the ears as a martial arts strike in ju-jitsu. Also know how relatively low pressure can rupture ear drums it's quite pain full too.

Anyway, I have no issues believing this is a potential issue. Not least because I've got colleagues who've had the bulletins about it from I think the HSE. It's an Organization I trust and one that employers have to listen to as well.

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Old 15th March 2013, 02:03 PM
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Re: General Safety Question - Possibly fatal air embolisms caused by air hoses

I have searched several medical databases that list causes of embolisms, but not one has included this as a source. So often, if in a percieved "good cause," tales get repeated, whether known true or not, because they seem to serve only the best intents.
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Old 15th March 2013, 06:50 PM
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I ran in to a story that I have heard before, in one of our Safety trainings. The anecdote talks about possibly fatal air embolisms caused by air hoses. I have heard this before, but strongly suspect that it is actually an urban legend. Does anyone out there know of any documented cases of this occurring?
It was a well documented case about an apprentice in the UK who had a compressed air gun held to his rear end and he suffered the resulting embolism and died - that I was told about over 45 years ago! Urban legend? Probably not...
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Old 15th March 2013, 08:16 PM
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Re: General Safety Question - Possibly fatal air embolisms caused by air hoses

There are several such stories, but the cause of death in these cases is not an embolism but rupture of the large intestine and organ damage. I have no doubt that the use of an air hose that you describe could cause rapid fatality. The urban legend is that an air hose against the skin causes a fatal venous or arterial embolism.
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Old 15th March 2013, 09:18 PM
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Re: General Safety Question - Possibly fatal air embolisms caused by air hoses

Pressurized water will cause serious damage, though unrelated to embolisms. I "cut" my finger on a pressurized water machine when I was washing a part some years back. It cut my finger and the "cut" was like a razor cut. I can imagine what that would do if you were up close and sprayed someone.

High pressure air and water are serious potential hazards.
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