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Old 6th June 2017, 06:09 AM
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Easiest way to do this is to purchase the API spec. If you're going to get certified to it your organization would be expected to have a valid copy (not a violation of copyright laws) of it.

We are already certified to API and I do have a copyright copy of API Spec Q1,9th Edition! I have also mapped the additional clause wise requirements of ISO 9001:2015 against API Spec Q1, ninth edition.

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Old 6th June 2017, 06:16 AM
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I think, those are differents things
Avisgope please explain, what do you mean with correlation? (relationship?)
There is not any specific relationship with APi, or ASTM.
under ISO, into your processes, yo can use API, ASTM or whatever and if you want to be certified on ISO, go with an ISO CB, and if you want to be certified under API, or ASTM look for those entities which certify you on such standards.

I hope this helps

Pd I´m ISO certified for one side and on the other side , I´m certified on ASTM, We manufacture pressure vessels.
Maybe I have not put it in the right way. We do have QMS which meets the requirement of ISO 9001:2008 and API Spec Q1, ninth edition. We are certified to both API as well as ISO 9K. Since ISO 9001:2008 has been revised to ISO 9001:2015 we need to capture in the additional requirements of ISO 9001:2015.
API Spec Q1 till the eighth edition had good correlation to ISO 9001:2008 with additional requirements. Now API Spec Q1 is likely to be revised to 10th Edition which in turn will be aligned with latest ISO 9001:2015 requirements( with of course additional requirements).
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Old 6th June 2017, 06:27 AM
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From what is have read the answer is "NO' no one on this site has or isn't sharing the information. I would think API has it but they are not good at sharing to its "customers". This also going to be my objective this year. Perhaps other will see the thread and actually provide some information that is actually a benefit. Regards,

Agreed to whatever you have mentioned in your reply. The next revision of API Spec Q1 to the 10th edition is likely to provide more information on the possible alignment with ISO 9001:2015.

Regards,

Avisgop
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Old 6th June 2017, 06:35 AM
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It's definitely worth your time to buy the spec and pour over it. To give you an idea of what is required you could visualize that ISO 9001 has its requirements, AS9100 adds a little to what is in ISO 9001, and API adds even more. It really is important to pursue it in the context of your organization and you can't do that if you aren't familiar with it yourself.
Hi Eredhel,

I do have the specs of both API Spec Q1, ninth edition and ISO 9001:2015 which are copyright editions. I have completed the integration of our QMS ( ISO 9k & API Spec Q1) and waiting for the ISO 9K recertification Audit. :
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Old 6th June 2017, 07:51 AM
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The next revision of API Spec Q1 to the 10th edition is likely to provide more information on the possible alignment with ISO 9001:2015.
API decoupled Q1 from ISO9001 deliberately with the 9th Edition. I don't believe API has any intention to revert the decision anytime soon.
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Old 7th June 2017, 07:50 AM
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API decoupled Q1 from ISO9001 deliberately with the 9th Edition. I don't believe API has any intention to revert the decision anytime soon.
Hi Sidney Vienna,
I agree with you that API has deviated away from ISO 9001:2008 requirements with the introduction of risk based approach. API’s Subcommittee on Quality (SC 18 Task Group 2) is presently working on review of ISO 9001:2015 standard to ascertain the required changes which will be later part of API Spec Q1. This will then will be released as API Spec Q1, 10th Edition. The work is under progress and it is likely to be released either by this yearend or early next year. Moreover, ISO/TS 29001:2010 (equivalent of API Spec Q1, eighth edition) is also undergoing changes to incorporate the requirements of ISO 9001:2015 (ISO /WD 29001)

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Avisgop
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Old 10th June 2017, 10:55 AM
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Hi Sidney Vienna,
I agree with you that API has deviated away from ISO 9001:2008 requirements with the introduction of risk based approach. API’s Subcommittee on Quality (SC 18 Task Group 2) is presently working on review of ISO 9001:2015 standard to ascertain the required changes which will be later part of API Spec Q1. This will then will be released as API Spec Q1, 10th Edition. The work is under progress and it is likely to be released either by this yearend or early next year. Moreover, ISO/TS 29001:2010 (equivalent of API Spec Q1, eighth edition) is also undergoing changes to incorporate the requirements of ISO 9001:2015 (ISO /WD 29001)

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Avisgop
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of API Q1. Maybe you could disclose the real reasons why API decoupled Q1 from 9001 in the 9th Edition. I had heard it was due to intellectual property disputes.

Also, can you clarify if the next editions of Q1 and TS 29001 are supposed to be identical, as in the past? Because, if not, the Oil & Gas supply chain might revolt having to deal with a multitude of QMS Standards being imposed onto them, such as API Q1 & Q2, ISO 9001:2015, ISO/TS 29001:2018 (?), etc.
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