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What is "Modified Control Chart"
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Old 22nd January 2010, 05:46 AM
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Question What is "Modified Control Chart"

Dear All,

I am preparing an annual quality review for my company and I have some references prepared by a previous person. Unfortunately I can not understand what he/she means it this guidline as below:

"Solubility, Disintegration, Sulfur dioxide, and Residue on ignition:
As the specifications are apparent for Solubility, Disintegration, Sulfur dioxide, and Residue on ignition, a modified control chart can be employed.
v How to construct Modified Control Charts
Fill in data sheets with all the annual data (k) of capsules determined once per lot and collected.
Calculate mean value, moving range (Rs), and average of moving ranges as described in the step for the construction of X-Rs Charts.
Calculate control limits in accordance with the below formula.
USL = Upper Specification Limit apparently predetermined
UCL (Upper Control Limit) = USL 1.88
Draw horizontal line for the control limits on the X and Rs charts as described in the section 4.4.1 and additionally draw horizontal line for upper specification limit. Evaluation method is described in the section 4.4.4."

My question is what is this control chart? and please give me a template if you get a one

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Old 24th January 2010, 09:12 PM
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is there anyone can help me soon?
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Old 24th January 2010, 09:19 PM
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Old 24th January 2010, 09:32 PM
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② Calculate mean value, moving range (Rs), and average of moving ranges as described in the step for the construction of X-Rs Charts.
Isn't it stated here that it is for the construction of moving range chart?
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Old 24th January 2010, 10:50 PM
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It is slightly different. The end result is similar to statistically calculated pre-control limits. That is, these control limits are derived from both the moving range and the specification limits. They are calculated outside in from the specifications instead of inside out from Xbar.
Thank You to Miner for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 25th January 2010, 10:16 AM
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Re: What is "Modified Control Chart"

Agree with Miner

Don Wheeler, show it (altho don't recommend it) on his books "Advanced topics in Statistical Process Control", in 1995 edition, page 346.

He said that Modified Control Limits does nothing to encorage what the process is able to achive. He wrote
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The rationale .. is the thought that as long as the subgroup average is within these limits, the process will be producing conforming product.
The control limits equations are

UCL = USL - 3 Sigma(X) + 3 Sigma (X_Average)
LCL = USL + 3 Sigma(X) - 3 Sigma (X_Average)

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UCL (Upper Control Limit) = USL 1.88
Seems odd, maybe was obtained from real data from your process and parametrized as a constant (1.88).
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Old 25th January 2010, 10:38 AM
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We know that similar control limit methodology has been proposed for precision machining (not by me, because the variation calculated is from measurement error, not process variation). To really understand if this is an issue or not we would have to understand the underlying distributions for the Solubility, Disintegration, Sulfur dioxide, and Residue on ignition measures. I would guess they are normal distributions, but would need some evidence to verify that. There may be lot variation issues that skew the long-term distribution - variation that can not be eliminated or controlled. But, if the overall distribution is normal, then these control limits are likely not correct.

If I was to guess why this was implemented, they were probably developed because the ongoing variation of these measures were not represented by the samples used for the control limit calculations, and therefore the calculated control limits could not be met over time. In frustration, they likely implemented this approach to provide some sanity to a situation the control charting methodology was not well understood. Rubber stamping just wasn't working for them.
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Old 25th January 2010, 11:07 AM
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Re: What is "Modified Control Chart"

I covered Modified Control Charts when I attended the SPC seminar put on by Ford in Detroit in 1982 and it is also included in the book Statistical Quality Control by Grant & Levenworth.

Let's say you are drilling a hole and the diameter is considered "vital" so you have an X bar and R chart on it. Each time you have a drill change, the average changes so your X bar and R chart certainly looks out of control since tool changes affect the result.

The Modified Control Chart only affects the averages charts and the control limits are developed from the upper spec and lower spec limits.

UCL modified = Upper Spec limit - (V X standard deviation estimate)
LCL modified = Lower Spec limit + (V X standard deviation estimate)

V is a constant that will be found in most statistical books and is 1.66 for a 5 part sample.

The estimate of the standard deviation is developed from the R chart and is the average range/ d2 (also a standard per sample size).

Modified Control Chart control limits are sometimes called "shut down limits" since if one found a point outside the limits, there is a probably of finding parts outside the specification limits and the process should be shut down. In other words, the control limits are developed to give one a Cpk of 1.00.

The automotive industry do not recognize this type of chart but with disposable tooling or if one had a process where there is a lot of wear, it may be the most appropriate choice.

Hope this helps.
Thank You to David DeLong for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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