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Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?
Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?
Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?
Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?
Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?
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Old 15th November 2017, 02:32 AM
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Re: Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?

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I think this settles it. Thank you.

While we are here though, would you agree that website designer/ webhost does belong on the ASL, for the same reason the landlord doesn't, i.e. they would qualify for a corrective action assuming something goes wrong with your web labeling.
If the webdesign is the product or service that you provide - yes, but if it is not then - think of it this way. Are you going to review and approve them every year and more important - is the Purchasing department going to issues purchase order to them? if the answer is no then they do not belong.

Use this time effectively and work with suppliers that do provide product or services to meet your customers requirements.

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Old 15th November 2017, 11:46 AM
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Re: Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?

We use our web site to communicate some of our Terms and Conditions, so for us it's an approved vendor. Some of our contracts have customer required T&C that can be 20 or 30 pages long. So on our outside process POs we reference the web site.
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Old 15th November 2017, 12:33 PM
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Re: Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?

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We use our web site to communicate some of our Terms and Conditions, so for us it's an approved vendor. Some of our contracts have customer required T&C that can be 20 or 30 pages long. So on our outside process POs we reference the web site.
The question that you need to ask is what criteria did you use to approve them. They are consider a tool just like the fax machine, telephone or simple mail - they facilitate your communication but do not add anything to the quality and requirements to the product.

It will be interesting to see how your periodic review will go with the web designer... After all they just communicate what requirements you give them.

They do not create, design or improve the requirements of putting data in electronic format so other people can see it.

Following your logic - you might want to place the printer on your AVL and the fax / electronic forms of transmitting data....

Hope this helps...
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Old 15th November 2017, 12:53 PM
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Re: Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?

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The question that you need to ask is what criteria did you use to approve them. They are consider a tool just like the fax machine, telephone or simple mail - they facilitate your communication but do not add anything to the quality and requirements to the product.

It will be interesting to see how your periodic review will go with the web designer... After all they just communicate what requirements you give them.

They do not create, design or improve the requirements of putting data in electronic format so other people can see it.

Following your logic - you might want to place the printer on your AVL and the fax / electronic forms of transmitting data....

Hope this helps...
We have Aerospace and Defense customers that absolutely consider flow down of information to our outside suppliers to be product requirements. Even if they're just doing a simple zinc phosphate coating. Especially in regards to federally mandated ITAR and destruction of information requirements attached to some of them. There is also FISMA, associated NIST Special Publications, and the knowledge that requirements will eventually be made and flowed down to suppliers like us and not just federal agencies. So we work closely with our IT contractor in all levels, not just web site creation, management, and data entry. Not all shops have the need to do this. But the context of our organization and some of the contracts we see require it. And we prefer to be proactive and not reactive to future specification and standard requirements.

You'll notice I'm the first one to say be sure not to go too far with AVL stuff, as my gas station analogy pointed out. So no my logic is not put the printer on our AVL. I simply pointed out that if you have deeper requirements than some then it's worth examining the risk for your organization. Because the poster asked a follow-up about this specific thing.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 06:08 PM
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Re: Should the facility landlord be an approved supplier?

I agree, Eredhel.

We treat our website as Labeling. Same as all social media if it's used in that capacity. I would definitely review and approve/control some of the web content. That automatically increases the supplier risk.
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