Windows 11 is Coming--Is Your Computer Ready?

Jim Wynne

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At the release of Windows 10 in 2015, Microsoft said that it would be the last version of Windows, and would get "feature" updates twice yearly. In June of this year, it was announced that Windows 11 was coming, and it would be probably be released at the end of this year. The release date, as it turns out (and unless it changes, or course) is October 5.

The big news on Windows 11 is new hardware requirements. It seems that Microsoft is constitutionally incapable of releasing a new Windows version without screwing it up somehow, and 11 is no exception. At first, an app called PC Health Check was released, allowing users to verify that their computers would be able to run the new version. Because the new requirements meant that many relatively recent PCs wouldn't qualify (including a few relatively recent Microsoft Surface devices), MS went back to the proverbial drawing board and eased some of the processor requirements, and withdrew the app until they can get their stuff together. As is often the case, a third party stepped into the breach with a free app called Whynotwin11 that's keeping pace with Microsoft's ongoing changes.

Right now, the sticking point is processors. The original requirement was at least a 10th generation Intel CPU, and Zen+ AMD processors. The AMD requirement hasn't changed, but now MS is saying that some processors going back to 7th generation will qualify. That still leaves a lot of functioning PCs in the lurch, including mine. I built a desktop PC in 2012 that has been humming along nicely since then, first with Window 8 and then on through all of the Windows 10 flavors since 2015. As I was already contemplating doing a hardware upgrade, I went ahead and replaced the motherboard, processor and RAM and added an SSD in place of the old mechanical hard drive. The SSD made a remarkable performance difference, btw. Cost of the upgrade was about US$500. If you have a proprietary desktop computer that doesn't qualify under the new requirements, you might not be able to upgrade it, and many older laptops will be left out in the cold as well.

Windows 10 will be supported until 2025 for those who choose to stick with it. Windows 8.1 will be supported until 2023, and support for Windows 7 ended in 2020. As with all new Windows versions, it will be interesting to see how business will react to the availability of Windows 11.
 
Exactly why I quit windows for Linux. Still using my 2008 Dell laptop that once had the Great XP on it, but finally I tried Ubuntu and liked it so much I never went back. After finding out the WINE application would let me run my old windows programs I kicked myself for not leaving sooner. Still cooking along on 32 bits as well.
 

blackholequasar

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While I do prefer to dabble in Linux, I work with a workforce who can barely handle using Microsoft Word. Whenever there are updates, it causes bedlam at our facility... I'm not sure how Windows 11 will impact us, but something should probably be planned out prior to implementation!
 

Jim Wynne

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It's not just the processor that's an issue for Win11, it is the requirement of having a motherboard that supports Secure Boot, which in turn requires that the motherboard support UEFI boot and has a TPM 2.0 module installed.

Windows 11 System Requirements
The first link in my post addresses the TPM/Secure Boot requirement. This will be a problem but not as big a problem as the CPU requirements. TPM may be implemented in the form of a piece of hardware that plugs into a socket on the motherboard, or it's often implemented in the firmware without the actual hardware. Such is the case with my new Asus motherboard, and Asus recently released a BIOS update that turns it on by default so people won't have to go looking for it. My old motherboard had the socket but not the module, and it was for a TPM version earlier than 2.0.

The bottom line is that there are a lot of PCs that won't meet the new requirements, and won't be upgradeable to meet them.
 
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True for most OS, but Ubuntu, (or Mint for that matter), once installed (which is the slightly technical part, mostly having to with disabling secure boot) these systems are almost exactly the same as windows in how they feel and operate. And with much less worry about viruses than windows machines. Other flavors of Linux are different, and different skill levels are needed to navigate those. The "Libre Office" suite is practically a duplicate of MS Office as well.
 

Ed Panek

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I am getting the same message. I built a super rig in 2018 with an AMD 2990WX 32 core Threadripper, UEFI Boot capable ASUS Motherboard, 128 GB RAM, an Nvidia 2080Ti, and a 2 TB SSD with Windows 10. It says my PC isn't ready for Windows 11.
 

Jim Wynne

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True for most OS, but Ubuntu, (or Mint for that matter), once installed (which is the slightly technical part, mostly having to with disabling secure boot) these systems are almost exactly the same as windows in how they feel and operate.
Maybe how they feel, but not how they operate. There are issues with app packages and dependencies that would be completely foreign to a Windows user, and there are still issues with availability of hardware drivers, although not nearly as many as there used to be. The command line structure is also completely different.
 

Jim Wynne

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I am getting the same message. I built a super rig in 2018 with an AMD 2990WX 32 core Threadripper, UEFI Boot capable ASUS Motherboard, 128 GB RAM, an Nvidia 2080Ti, and a 2 TB SSD with Windows 10. It says my PC isn't ready for Windows 11.
Your processor is listed as compatible. What source are you using that's telling you that your PC isn't ready? What does it say the problem is?
 
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