if ISO 9000 says "...carried out by personnel not being responsible for the object audited"
And it doesn't state that, of course...(for clarity's sake)
if ISO 9000 says "...carried out by personnel not being responsible for the object audited"
Yes! I have it open currently - putting definitions into training course materials. View attachment 25431
I work at a small company where I wear many hats. I'm new to quality and putting together an internal audit plan for the first time. I started off with our key processes(sales, D&D, purchasing/inventory, and production), and for each key process listed the process document(each key process has multiple process documents and process owners) and corresponding process owners. My problem is when I look at the four key processes and process owners my name is showing up as a process owner for one of the process documents in 3 of the 4 key processes. Does that mean I can't audit these areas?
To give a specific example I'd really like to audit production myself, I don't work in production but I am a process owner in that I'm responsible to define processes for RMAs and control of production services and provisions. I don't actually do the work myself, the people that do report to me. What are the requirements and recommendations given my current situation?
Gotcha, and does yours have "Note 1 to entry" below that text in the pic you've added? I'm looking on line and seeing note 1 and it has the language "...carried out by personnel not being responsible for the object audited"
One can go to the ISO OBP, search the definition of the term audit, filter under the TC176 and scroll down to see the whole entry:Gotcha, and does yours have "Note 1 to entry" below that text in the pic you've added? I'm looking on line and seeing note 1 and it has the language "...carried out by personnel not being responsible for the object audited"
You may have implemented the processes but the records are what is being audited. Unless you are actually doing the work to place data into the record you are auditing I think its defendable to audit it as the owner.