7.3 Exclusion Question

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dbzman

#1
7.3 A good question

I asked this question in the ISO 9001 section.Since we are going to certify to ISO and then to TS (ISO this year TS next) I will also ask it here.

I work for a Heat Treating company. The only thing that we do is heat treat our customers parts. We do not manufacure a "product".

I have been told that we can opt out of 7.3. The only sections we need to address are 7.3.2.2 and 7.3.3.2.....

Is this true? I have my doubts.

Dazed and Confused.....


Still Dazed and Confused.......

:ko:
 
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#2
The following clauses would apply;
7.3.1, 7.3.2, 7.3.3, 7.3.4, 7.3.5, 7.3.6, for ISO, and then;

7.3.1.1, 7.3.2.2, 7.3.2.3, 7.3.3.2, 7.3.4.1, 7.3.6.1, 7.3.6.2, 7.3.6.3 for TS2
 
D

dbzman

#3
Just one more question

Just one more clarification needed:

In the book :Exploring ISO/TS 16949:2002" it states that:

"ISO/TS 16949:2002 allows scope exclusion of product design, but requires all of Clause 7.3 be applied to the manufacturing process. This brings a much stronger focus upon the manufacturing process than was present in QS-9000"

Is this not applicable to use because we have a heat treating process and not a manufacturing process?

Thanks!

:ko:
 

howste

Thaumaturge
Super Moderator
#4
I answered this in your other thread. I'll post here again just for continuity in this thread:

You must apply all of 7.3 to design of processes.
The only permitted exclusions for this Technical Specification relate to 7.3 where the organization is not responsible for product design and development.
Permitted exclusions do not include manufacturing process design.
From TS 16949 terms & definitions:
manufacturing
process of making or fabricating
- production materials,
- production or service parts,
- assemblies, or
- heat treating, welding, painting, plating or other finishing services
 
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