This is out of my league so Ill defer to you.
787 Crash
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Common Practice: On the first flight of a new aircraft type, the landing gear is often left extended as a precautionary measure. This reduces the risk of issues related to gear retraction mechanisms, which may not have been fully tested in real-world conditions. Keeping the gear down simplifies the flight profile and allows the test pilots to focus on basic handling, stability, and performance without adding the complexity of gear operation.
As for the landing gear not being retracted in the Air India, it OBVIOUSLY creates aerodynamic drag, so during normal procedures, it is retracted after take off, as soon as it is safe to do so.
The initial analysis of the crash are leading to human errors with the flaps misconfigured and potential erroneous entry of data related to the takeoff weight leading to wrong engine thrust settings.
I watched someone explaining that the RAT deploys when either there is
- total electrical failure
- total hydraulics failure
- dual engine shutdown
He argued that since the footage shows shortage of thrust, it would be the 3rd reason.
The question was, why did both engines shut simultaneously.
Apparently the black box is being investigated as we speak, and is likely to provide significant clues.
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This is such a "strange" crash that I am pretty sure we will have to wait for information from the black boxes (both of which have been recovered) to know what went wrong. The plane did backtrack and had the full length of the runway available for take-off. There are conflicting reports of just how much runway it used to get airborne, more-or-less certain that the slats and flaps were correctly deployed for take-off and remained that way for climbing. Initial climb was "ok" but then very quickly something happened leading to loss of thrust, plus it appears that the RAT deployed automatically. Plane appeared to hold correct attitude for climbing for the whole airborne part of the flight, but lost lift due to apparent loss of thrust... but why? Due to cockpit design, highly unlikely that controls for gear and flaps would have been confused and incorrectly operated. From current "reliable" information, very unlikely to be pilot error.
RIP to those who lost their lives and sincere condolences to the bereaved. Let's wait for the facts to fully emerge.
RIP to those who lost their lives and sincere condolences to the bereaved. Let's wait for the facts to fully emerge.
Saw a pilot state that when it took off a bunch of dust was kicked up indicating the jet was disturbing layers of dirt and dust that most planes dont. If every plane is kicking up dust eventually it will kind of self clean the runway as the dust is upset and forced to resettle further away. I guess that further shows it took more runway than normal.
Attached a summary of all incidents & accidents, provided by Boeing from 59'-24', by any measure substantial continual improvements! this is global, industry wide data from ICAO, other sources... this data in no way diminishes or marginalizes the profound impact experienced by the Air India #171 passengers, family & friends
Yep amen to that I vividly recall, when Harry Stonecipher took the reins...
many turns thus far in this investigation, in some respects it shares some alleged events with MH 370?
