8.4.2.3 clause IATF - Second part second-party audits

[Onuzuka]

hello friends.

I have a doubt about this requirement:

"Unless otherwise specified by the customer, the following sequence should be applied to achieve this requirement:
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d) certification to ISO9001 with compliance to IATF 16949 through second-party audits;"

That means that i should perform a system audit to the supplier, correct?

furthermore, the clause 8.4.2.4.1 says:

"The organization shall include a second-party audit process in their supplier management approach. Second-party audits may be used for the following:
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c) supplier QMS development;
d) product audits;
e) process audits.

In the end, from what i understood, in base on my risk analisys, i can perform to the supplier a system audit, process audits and product audits

 

[Golfman25]

So that section has be essentially re-written by the sanctioned interpretations. You might want the review them, Section 8, and then see if you still have a questions.

14 November 2024 – Release of Sanctioned Interpretations (SIs) related to Rules 6 th Edition – International Automotive Task Force

www.iatfglobaloversight.org

 

[Johnnymo62]

I think you meant SI8 from: https://www.iatfglobaloversight.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/IATF-16949-SIs-Nov-2024.pdf

 

[Onuzuka]

So that section has be essentially re-written by the sanctioned interpretations. You might want the review them, Section 8, and then see if you still have a questions.

Hello thanks! but the point d) in 8.4.2.3 hasn't been changed. So my question is still open

 

[Golfman25]

Well, I think it is pretty clear. 8.4.2.4.1 requires (shall include) a second party audit process with regard to supplier management. You can (may) use such audits for any of the subjects in the list a-e. So you can do what your supplier will allow.