8D for Late PPAP's

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vardar3

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I have suppliers that are not going to get their PPAP in on time for me to submitt my assembly PPAP to the customer (JCI).
  • I'm would like to have our customers complete some type of action plan, to show how they and us are going to move farward.
  • is there a JCI form that I can use for this?
  • I was thinking an 8D.
 
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trainerbob

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Is there a provision in your supplier contracts for delivery/late delivery of the PPAP package? That is where these things should be addressed. It makes it hard to require an 8D from a supplier if there if there was no provision for it before the fact. We need to make sure that we are not setting our suppliers up for failure.
 
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Golfman25

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Define late. Why are they late? Is something going on beyond their control? Having them fill out additional paperwork might just be a waste of time. What do they say?
 
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Trainerbob

If you speel out the late fee's in the sqm, then this should do the trick to insure the PPAP will be on time. this needs to be in the contract to.

normally its the cost of the tooling plus the first 300 parts cost (daily)
added for late fee's.
 

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Trainerbob

If you speel out the late fee's in the sqm, then this should do the trick to insure the PPAP will be on time. this needs to be in the contract to.

normally its the cost of the tooling plus the first 300 parts cost (daily)
added for late fee's.
If there are precise requirements that they accept for PPAP submission to you, you can request a corrective action as well as penalties, otherwise it could be difficultous for you. You shall change supplier in alternative.:bigwave:
 
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vardar3

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You guys gave me a lot of good information for my question.
  • One good point made was that I don't want to bog suppliers down with more paperwork.
  • I could work with purchasing to include PPAP timing into the purchase order. The P.O. seems to hold a lot of weight in issues like this.
 
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