9001 Corporate Quality Audit - Yearly Audit on the Individual Business Units

chris_gray1980

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#1
Hi All

I'm looking for some advice,

I am a quality manager for a group of companies and once a year to maintain our multi-site ISO9001 certification i have to carry out a yearly audit on the individual business units.

I have an audit check list in place at the moment and i find it is extremely long winded, it goes through ISO 9001 clause by clause and takes an extremely long time to complete, is this really necessary? for example do i need to check their purchasing or design function if i am checking their internal audits which the QA coordinator has already done? i believe i am their just to do the independent check/audit on the quality system to make sure it is being 'used' correctly? (I guess a bit like a 3rd party auditor from the certification body would do)

Is there anyone in the same position and carry out a group/corporate type audit or have a multi site certification.

If there are any example checklists any where i would be really grateful to see them them.

Thank you in advance

Chris
 
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Re: 9001 Corporate Quality Audit

Hi All

I'm looking for some advice,

I am a quality manager for a group of companies and once a year to maintain our multi-site ISO9001 certification i have to carry out a yearly audit on the individual business units.

I have an audit check list in place at the moment and i find it is extremely long winded, it goes through ISO 9001 clause by clause and takes an extremely long time to complete, is this really necessary? for example do i need to check their purchasing or design function if i am checking their internal audits which the QA coordinator has already done? i believe i am their just to do the independent check/audit on the quality system to make sure it is being 'used' correctly? (I guess a bit like a 3rd party auditor from the certification body would do)

Is there anyone in the same position and carry out a group/corporate type audit or have a multi site certification.

If there are any example checklists any where i would be really grateful to see them them.

Thank you in advance

Chris
Hi Chris,
Generally speaking, check lists for an audit are a useful tool but they are not mandatory. I would suggest to audit using "process approach" , having as a model or example the turtle diagram that may help you to assess the audited processes.
As to Corporate audit, you should act in behalf of your Certification Body, so you should plan the audit on a site's process just like the third part auditor does.
I think it is not enough to rely on the internal audit report of a site auditor for the processes you have mentioned.
Besides, you can take the chance to audit internal audit processes/activities of that site by means of your corporate audit.
As a suggestion , it could be useful to have a corporate procedure/policy ( if you do not have it yet) to manage this kind of corporate audit, in terms of planning ,performing job, audit plan , mgmt of corrective actions, competence of the auditors etc. etc.
hope this helps:bigwave:
 
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Raffy

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Hi All

I'm looking for some advice,

I am a quality manager for a group of companies and once a year to maintain our multi-site ISO9001 certification i have to carry out a yearly audit on the individual business units.

I have an audit check list in place at the moment and i find it is extremely long winded, it goes through ISO 9001 clause by clause and takes an extremely long time to complete, is this really necessary? for example do i need to check their purchasing or design function if i am checking their internal audits which the QA coordinator has already done? i believe i am their just to do the independent check/audit on the quality system to make sure it is being 'used' correctly? (I guess a bit like a 3rd party auditor from the certification body would do)

Is there anyone in the same position and carry out a group/corporate type audit or have a multi site certification.

If there are any example checklists any where i would be really grateful to see them them.

Thank you in advance

Chris

Hello Chris, :bigwave:
You can start here: http://elsmar.com/pdf_files/ - there are lots of free files that you may want to use as a start.
Raffy :cool:
 

somashekar

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#4
I am a quality manager for a group of companies and once a year to maintain our multi-site ISO9001 certification i have to carry out a yearly audit on the individual business units.
Is it one certification with several site OR eack group company has its certification ?
If it is the former, you must plan and perform internal audits at all sites.
If it is the later, then you ensure that the companies have effectively performed internal audits, and management reviews by discussions with the company MR's, as a part of corporate quality monitoring.
For our multisite (far apart in distance) that is under one certification, we plan internal audits at all site seperately and bring the audit results into the common management review records. No seperate corporate audits, for we do not believe thrusting audit on site which work on corporate directions and is actively monitored.
 

harry

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#5
............................ once a year to maintain our multi-site ISO9001 certification i have to carry out a yearly audit on the individual business units. ..................................
One pertinent question to ask is what is the objective of your audit?

If it is to make sure they covered all grounds, then a checklist 'may' work. If it is to ensure that the audit had been properly carried out, a better approach is to be present during their internal audit to observe how it was carried out.
 
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