9001 Internal Audit documentation

[BLKPAR]

Hi all!

I will be conducting an internal audit for ISO 9001:2008 on a company that has 24 employees and does D & D, assembly and some internal parts manufacturing. It will be for their first surveillance audit. I'm conducting a process oriented I A with many open ended questions searching for issues or breakdowns in the QMS. I'm a little unclear how to document my findings with the proper evidence. The ex. auditor during the cert. audit seemed to want a minimum of 3 documented pieces of evidence for each section and subsection. This seems to me that I would be auditing the standard and not the company's QMS. How can I be thorough documenting the evidence of a process oriented I A? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[GStough]

A records review for each process would be a good place to start, IMO. If the company allows photos, this would also be a type of objective evidence. Interviews with people who are actually performing the process is another type, as is simply documenting your own observations during the tour (assuming there is one given).

I hope this helps. And welcome to the Cove!

 

[AndyN]

Hi all!

I will be conducting an internal audit for ISO 9001:2008 on a company that has 24 employees and does D & D, assembly and some internal parts manufacturing. It will be for their first surveillance audit. I'm conducting a process oriented I A with many open ended questions searching for issues or breakdowns in the QMS. I'm a little unclear how to document my findings with the proper evidence. The ex. auditor during the cert. audit seemed to want a minimum of 3 documented pieces of evidence for each section and subsection. This seems to me that I would be auditing the standard and not the company's QMS. How can I be thorough documenting the evidence of a process oriented I A? Any help would be appreciated.

Welcome: Could you help qualify your statement? You speak of an internal audit, then use an external audit term: "surveillance". Are you performing an internal audit for the company? Have you had any training in auditing? Your comment about the CB auditor is interesting because it shows they are using opinion, not requirements and this can be ignored.

If you should be auditing the QMS as an internal auditor, not auditing to the standard. It's very difficult for someone new to auditing - as you appear to be - to audit using a process approach if you audit using ISO 9001 as your criteria.