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A TS 16949 Implementation through Registration Project Diary - Automotive

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D.Scott

#41
Sounds like you are on your way. Good luck on both.

You are sure right about not being able to do it in 2 days so the best thing to do is relax and enjoy it.

Dave
 
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#42
Thanks Big D.

Bobby Knight had a quote about "relax and enjoy" but I don't think it bears repeating here. Instead, here's a little tidbid from Mr. Twain:

Where was the use, originally, in rushing this whole globe through in six days? It is likely that if more time had been taken in the first place, the world would have been made right, and this ceaseless improving and repairing would not be necessary now. But if you hurry a world or a house, you are nearly sure to find out by and by that you have left out a towhead, or a broom-closet, or some other little convenience, here and there, which has got to be supplied, no matter how much expense or vexation it may cost.
- Life on the Mississippi
 
#43
Welcome to 2005

In addition to my many other talents, I also know how to operate a Suface Mount Technology printed circuit board assembly line (since I'm the one who installed it). Since the regular operator went back to school full time for BSEE degree, I have been busy.

On the TS side:
Our December customer audit went off without a single finding or OFI.

Management Review went well also. I closed 13 of 16 action items from the September MR and added another 17 to the list.

About half of the findings from our November Internal Audit were closed before the end of 2004 and all but a couple that require some long term training and indoctrination will be closed by the end of January 2005.

Here's the big one: We had a supplier quality manager here in early January(from the company that is requiring our TS registration) to do a supplier audit.
He reviewed:
The Quality Assurance Manual (every page)
The entire PPAP file for our product (every page)
Our Internal Audit programme (only the plan and findings)
Our calibration programme
Incoming inspection
Assembly
Final inspection
Complete plant tour

We had only one finding! While we have been religious about Corrective Actions and their complete implementation and our quality system covers receiving through shipment, some of the changes since the product was released have not been documented on the Process Failure Mode Effect Analysis. We update the PFMEA and we're OK!

Next on the list: training, training, procedures, and training, MR in February and Pre-Assessment in early April.

Happy New Year!
-Icy
 
#44
Bump!

I'm baaaaack!

Let's see. In February, we had a second internal audit, beginning a complete coverage of the system for 2005. This focused on the weak items from the 2004 comprehensive audit.

All findings from the 2004 Internal Audit were closed. Only 4 findings, 2 on Engineering Review for impact in the ECO process and 2 on updating and consistency of process metrics were generated.

Pretty Good!
 
#45
Management Review

We held the Management Review for the 1st Quarter at the end of March. Specific to this review is a comprehensive review of the Records Matrix (it's not updated), Re-Evaluation of suppliers (our Approved Suppliers List wasn't ready), and Re-Evaluation of company training needs (we really need to get everyone's daily work connected to a Section of the Procedures Manual so they can answer auditors properly).

We also had a training session where we put together a Process Diagram or "Turtle" for each Team. One leg are the Procedures Manual Sections that apply, one leg are the forms and check lists, one leg is for Resources (Job Descriptions, Training Requirements, and Equipment, and the final leg are the metrics used. Each turtle has a racing stripe across its back with Inputs on one side and Outputs on the other. These saved us!

Keep in mind these items and those from the previous post. You'll see them again shortly.
 
#46
Pre-Assessment/Pre-Audit

OK, here's where the rubber meets the road. About 21 findings and 4 OFIs.

We identify each of our Teams as a Process. They all have owners, inputs, outputs, controls as listed above. Some of these teams have what the auditor called "imbedded" processes. For example, the Operations Team is obviously responsible for "Production and Service Provision". What might not be obvious is that the "element" of Control of Measuring and Monitoring Devices (a.k.a calibration) is also a "Process" and "imbedded" in Operations.

Each Element of the Standard and/or each Team was approached with the following Questions:

What is your process?
Are you the process owner?
What are your outputs?
What are your inputs?
Do you have a procedure?
How do you determine the effectiveness of your process?
Do you have training?
How do you determine the effectiveness of your training?
Do you have a description of your role in the process (job description)?

Some did better than others.
 
#47
The *&^$ Findings

Assurance of Independence of Internal Auditors (8.2.2).
Our Internal Audit is done by a contract employee/supplier. Although three members of the steering committee were trained to audit internal audit, we did not have a training certificate. Oh, but we will. DUFAS.

Job Descriptions did not contain competency on the basis of education. (6.2.1)
That's right. For most jobs, we don't have a Diploma or Degree requirement. We are revising to state "degree, etc. or Determined equivalent". DUFAS.

Internal Audit plan not adequate.(8.2.2.4)
The plan was a list of Elements divided into Quarters. The new plan is a Matrix of Opportunity with Teams on one axis and Elements on the other. The opportunities are marked with an X. The plan replaces the X's with 1, 2, 3 or 4 depending on which quarter it will be audited. Assures coverage of all elements and all teams. DUFAS.

Sequence and Interactions (4.1a/b)
You ABSOLUTELY will NOT get by this without a flow chart. The auditor did not understand our version. SO, our Team Organization circle has been overlaid with a flow chart for the auditor's benefit. DUFAS

Metrics/Measurables (5.1.1)
Despite all our work we had a couple of teams that still did not have updated metrics on their scoreboards. OUCH! Oh, but they will :mad:
Specifically, Design & Development, Customer Related Processes, Control of Measuring and Monitoring Devices, and Preventive and Predictive Maintenance. The first two are teams just not keeping up their metrics. The last two have me stumped. How do you have performance metrics for calibration?

Inadequate documentation of Manufacturing Feasibility (7.2.2.2)
At least it is not on the Team Feasibility Committment Form from the APQP book. You can do this all you want but you gotta fill out the form. I just love paperwork done only for Auditors! (Done Up For Auditor's Sake=DUFAS)

Inadequate system for the control and review of Engineering Specifications. (4.2.3.1)
Very tough for us since our TS customer doesn't give us a specific list. We'll make our own.

Lack of Training on FMEA, APQP, PPAP (6.2.2.2)
If you just read the book and execute flawlessly (no findings on any of these processes by customer or registrar), it is not enough. You must pay AIAG for some training materials and then generate paperwork showing that someone used them. (DUFAS).

No evidence of prototype, prelaunch or production Control Plan (7.3.6.2 & 7.5.1.1)
Yeah, right. Try to manufacture electronics without one. We cover all the bases listed in Annex A, but the auditor could not be bothered. Gin up a "Control Plan" summary on the form in the APQP book and he'll be happy. DUFAS.

Unfamiliarity with Procedures and Work Instructions (4.2.3c and 7.5.1.2)
Remember the training recommendations from Management Review? Here they are!

Obsolete/Uncontrolled Documents (4.2.3)
See previous finding. Auditor would like to see PROCEDURES MANUAL! Please do not pull out keypunch work instructions! Look at your Turtle! It's right there! Training, training, training.

Supplier Monitoring Data (7.4.3.2)
I told you that in Management Review. We're working on it!

Training Records (6.2.2.3)
Doggone Sales Team. Never produced a training matrix. Everyone else did! No you. :whip:

No evidence of Predictive Maintenance (7.5.1.4)
Well, I don't have a pump farm or fan house. No constantly lubricated product. How shall I do vibration or oil analysis. No unscheduled downtime on Key Equipment in the past 24 months. How do you predict downtime without downtime. I generate a white paper on subject and say we'll do it when it becomes necessary but you just can't improve on perfection!

No examples of process audits (8.2.2.2)
At least not in auditor friendly format. Our incoming, production and shipping teams are all producing and reporting weekly metrics for on time delivery, first pass yield, scrap, rework and warranty return. These are formally reviewed and approved every quarter. Not good enough. Produce one page audit plan and execute. (Product audit with review of team metrics, auditor OK with product audit records). DUFAS.

OFIs
Interpretation arguement over 7.4.1
"Criteria for selection, evaluation and re-evaluation shall be established." I have estabished critera for re-evaluation: if supplier X does not do Y like I asked, then I re-evaluate them. Auditor says criteria means how often will you re-evaluate supplier. Which is it? I have criteria for new suppliers that says they must be XYZ or they cannot be new suppliers, and criteria for evaluating them to see if they are XYZ. Isn't re-evaluation the same?

No big Controlled Documents stamps all over everything (4.2.3)
My master documents are not stamped "Master Documents". They are in binders that say "Production Manual". Go figure.

You have 21 Continual Improvements, 31 Corrective Actions but only 4 Preventive Actions in your Improvement Database. Go get some more Preventive Actions. (8.5.3)
I thought this was about processes, metrics and improvement. I appears to be about elements, checklists and numbers. DUFAS. Brainstorming to pad the PA list to follow.

Had the audacity to list "lack of proper training" as a root cause on a corrective action". (8.5.2)
Only one. And it was. Oh well. :rolleyes:

Management Review Action Items not clearly identified as Improvement of Effectiveness of the QMS, Improvement of Products/Services, or Resources Needs (5.6.3)
So I'll add a column to the Log. DUFAS.
 
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#48
What's next?

I have a 63 Item Great Big Comprehensive List of TS Registration Action Items List.

First, an ECO to clarify a half a dozen procedures and release some of the DUFAS forms and checklists.

Second, send complete set of Procedures, Work Instructions and Forms to Registrar to prepare for the Readiness Review

Train, Train, Train, and then train some more. Get all those turtles and metrics updated!

Readiness Review on May 19,2005.

Registration Audit June 22-24, 2005
:bonk:
Icy Mountain
 

Marc

Hunkered Down for the Duration with a Mask on...
Staff member
Admin
#49
Your continuing TS 16949 reports really are a big help

Ah, the fun of TS 16949 registration. I appreciate your getting back and letting us know what happened - Especially the details. Your continuing reports really are a big help to many people!
 

Marc

Hunkered Down for the Duration with a Mask on...
Staff member
Admin
#50
Icy Mountain said:
Lack of Training on FMEA, APQP, PPAP (6.2.2.2)
If you just read the book and execute flawlessly (no findings on any of these processes by customer or registrar), it is not enough. You must pay AIAG for some training materials and then generate paperwork showing that someone used them. (DUFAS).
I would like to hear the details on this. Where is it required that:
You must pay AIAG for some training materials
?
 
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