Adding more forums - Getting Serious about a Big Job - Your suggestions?

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I am still interested in a Quality Tools forum. One that addresses a topic for each tool - what it is - how to use it - when to use it - how to analyze the results - success stories - failures - questions - etc. One for each quality tool so they don't all get lost in the same "Tools" topic.

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D.Scott said:
I am still interested in a Quality Tools forum. One that addresses a topic for each tool - what it is - how to use it - when to use it - how to analyze the results - success stories - failures - questions - etc. One for each quality tool so they don't all get lost in the same "Tools" topic.
Make me a list of sub-forums (specific 'quality tools').
 
Food Safety?

Maybe instead of a specific HACCP forum, there could be a forum for food safety and standards compliance issues: HACCP, GMP, etc. There's a lot of crossover with general quality management topics (in some food processing companies the same person is responsible for both HACCP and ISO 9001:2000 compliance). I'm sure if you make it, the food QA guys will find it and start posting.
 
Kerrym said:
Maybe instead of a specific HACCP forum, there could be a forum for food safety and standards compliance issues: HACCP, GMP, etc. There's a lot of crossover with general quality management topics (in some food processing companies the same person is responsible for both HACCP and ISO 9001:2000 compliance). I'm sure if you make it, the food QA guys will find it and start posting.

Welcome to the cove Kerrym,

Good call. I agree with the QA guy also in charge of the food industry standards (because I am one). I am in charge of QA and the requirements of the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA). The APVMA regulate our animal feeds and pesticides etc and we have to meet their GMP rules (very similar to an ISO audit). We will be moving product into Europe this year and an avenue for me to ask questions would be very beneficial.

Greg B
 
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It would be nice to see some specific Forums on 6 Sigma/Lean tools, Baldridge, Strategy Deployment & Change Management.
Regards,
Adam
 
If we come up with a list, I'll be happy to make the changes. HOWEVER - this will be a somewhat major restructuring effort. What will make it difficult is not my changing the forums structure in and of its self, it will involve moving existing threads to appropriate forums. For example, currently Six Sigma is part of the Statistical Techniques forum. If I split these two off, or if I split the current forum up into more than two forums - say Six Sigma, General Statistical Techniques and Process Capability - I have to go through the existing forum and 'Move' all relevant threads to the appropriate forum one at a time. Basically you have to go to each post where the title indicates it's a 'Move Candidate', you have to open that thread (as you do to read it), verify it should be moved (as opposed to retitled), use the Thread Tools dropdown (moderators have access to the Move item so I'd have to give volunteers {see below} special access for at least a day) to actually move the thread, and navigate back to the forum they were in (or if searching do another search) to find the next thread to move. I mention this because I want to make sure everyone knows that this is not a simple and quick process - especially when splitting a forum as opposed to adding a new forum. It typically takes 1 to 3 minutes to find and move a thread and get back to where you started.

But even adding a new forum, a couple of the current 'catch all' forums would have to be looked through for relevant posts. For example, if we put in a 'Lean' forum, someone would have to do searches for 'lean' to find relevant threads and then move those threads to the new forum.

Statistical Techniques and Six Sigma, for example, has over 3,288 posts. Only 1 person at a time per forum should be moving posts in a mass move like this, unless we divided it up by date ranges per person, so that would probably take a couple of days.

So we have 2 issues:
1. Coming up with the specific categories we want without going over board and trying to make up a list of 100 super-specific groups. Six sigma is currently grouped with Statistical Techniques. There are a lot of different statistical techniques - do we also want to split off, for example, Capability (process, machine, etc.)?
2. Volunteer list. Please don't volunteer unless you want to put in a serious day.

The 'Cons':
1. Too time consuming for me alone to move all posts, so several volunteers would be needed.
2. The list of forums on the main page is already several pages long. If I print out the main forums listing page right now it's six pages. I mention this because I want to make sure we don't go over board on specific divisions. I have mixed feelings about more forums from the perspective of keeping confusion to a minimum and relevancy. For example, I set up a forum a few years back for someone who wanted a forum on Vehicle Computer Firmware or something similar which ended up with only 3 or 4 threads. I finally merged threads in it into another forum.

The 'Pros'
1. Better discrimination for 'specialties' making searches easier and keeping a localized focus.

That said, please let me know in this thread if any of you would be willing to spend a saturday or sunday (or a saturday and a sunday...) helping me move threads to the appropriate categories. I can make changes to the forum structure on a friday night and then on saturday and sunday we can move threads. The best I can liken this to is an Amish Barn Building where the community gets together and builds a barn. Almost sounds like work, doesn't it!?!

The current forum categories are: https://elsmar.com/elsmarqualityforum/statistik.php?do=popularforum_popup
 
Marc said:
But I do want to take a few days to get a number of responses so I can restructure with incorporations at one time. So folks, get your comments in.
I Agree.

Marc said:
Volunteer list. Please don't volunteer unless you want to put in a serious day.
I'll volunteer.

EDIT NOTE by Marc:
I merged a thread from last time we discussed this and removed a link to that thread from this post.
 
OK - I'll look at distilling a 'suggested forums' list from this thread. So far we have these 'main' suggestions:

The 'Main' suggestions so far (let me know if I missed one):

For example, 17025 forum could be split into separate forums for calibration and MSA. Statistical Techniques forum into SPC, Sampling, Six Sigma etc.

TS QS merged with VDA, for another year , VDA should be with auto and not in other standards as has been done. APQP and FMEA to merge, I don't really understand why they were seperate. Company standards - this is important.I would also suggest ISO9001:94 to close. It really is irrelevant today. Non conformance and preventative to merge it would seem more logical.

On the Business Standards, what about combining the "Others" with the FDA board? What about combining the NC/CA with the PA/CI boards. The 2 subjects always go hand in hand.

Software Quality is certainly one I would recommend.There are some members in this forum who have good knowledge in Software Quality.

I am still interested in a Quality Tools forum. One that addresses a topic for each tool - what it is - how to use it - when to use it - how to analyze the results - success stories - failures - questions - etc. One for each quality tool so they don't all get lost in the same "Tools" topic.

Maybe instead of a specific HACCP forum, there could be a forum for food safety and standards compliance issues: HACCP, GMP, etc. There's a lot of crossover with general quality management topics (in some food processing companies the same person is responsible for both HACCP and ISO 9001:2000 compliance). I'm sure if you make it, the food QA guys will find it and start posting.

It would be nice to see some specific Forums on 6 Sigma/Lean tools, Baldridge, Strategy Deployment & Change Management.


The Current Forum List:

National and International Business Standards
- - The ISO 9000 Series Standards
- - - - ISO 9001:1994
- - ISO 14000 Series and Other Environmental
- - ISO 17025 - Calibration Inspection and Testing
- - ISO 13485 (EN 46000), FDA and Medical Devices
- - Other ISO Standards and Related Topics
- - Other Various Standards and Test Procedures

Auditing, Consultants and Registrars
- - Auditing including ISO 19011
- - Registrars and Registration
- - Consultants and Consulting

Common Specific Topics Marc
- - Statistical Techniques and Six Sigma
- - Documentation and Forms
- - Nonconformance and Corrective Action Systems
- - Preventive Action and Continuous Improvement
- - Training - Internal and External
- - Certification Training and Tests
- - Miscellaneous Related Topics
- - Software - Quality Assurance, Environmental and Other
- - Philosophy, Gurus, Controversy and Evolution
- - Book, Video and Web Site Reviews
- - Occupations - Quality, FDA / Medical, Environmental, etc.
- - Position Openings - Opportunities: Companies and Recruiters

Automotive Sector Topics
- - ISO / TS 16949 Sporty
- - QS-9000 and the AIAG Supplements
- - APQP and PPAP
- - FMEA and Control Plans
- - Company (Customer) Specific Requirements

Odds and Ends
- - Contribution Access and Guide File Sets
- - - - Outdated Threads
- - Help Using the Forums and User Information
- - Coffee Break Talk
- - Tosebo and Summer Camps
- - Used - Buy and Sell
- - Organization and Company Announcements
 
Marc said:
Make me a list of sub-forums (specific 'quality tools').
Okay, I'll start this off: this is something I had mentioned in the "Vintage" thread:

Kepner-Tregoe, Kano Model, Kirkpatrick's Model, Balanced ScoreCard, QFD, Taguchi & Shainin's Techniques (we have some threads on Pre-Control).

Add: Pareto, and any of the many 'diagrams'

"back to the group"!
 
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