AIAG CQI-11, 12, 15 and 17 - Whose requirements are these?

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Its something you'd want to resist, and the fact that its not part of a finished product is a pretty good case for it.

The type of requirements for CQI-15, such as a "dedicated qualified weld expert on site " ( reflected in the organizational chart ) , ( The audit also has to be done by a "weld expert", a different weld expert I assume ), seem to be way over the top for many small weld operations for non-critical joints.

AIAG will tell you that the CQI standards are mandatory however, I don't believe that the AIAG are in a position to make the call, it is the customers who specify it.

To the best of my knowledge Chrysler specify CQI -15 for any supplier with a welding process. General Motors do not specify CQI-15 in their specific requirements, they do specify other CQI requirements.

Ford use the wording: "Ford reserves the right to require Special Manufacturing Process Requirements at the organization and sub-tier suppliers (where appropriate) for the following processes: "

Unless the auditor can show you a clear requirement , don't do it. If he can show you, try to get a waiver from your customer, because its nonsense for your operation.
 
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That's a good question.
The first requirement of CQI-15 is that you need to have what is effectively a dedicated weld expert on site.
That would be pretty difficult for example for a pressed bracket supplier who needs to spot-weld a small attachment onto one bracket.

Ford have conveyed that sub-suppliers need to complete the CQI-9 for heat treatement, I don't know if it extends to their suppliers.

Logic would suggest that CQI-11 should only apply to specialised plating organisations, as opposed to a company that phosphates or blackens their product for a bit of corrosion protection prior to use, but logic doesn't always apply where OEM's are concerned.
Please share CQI 11 latest checksheet
 
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