AIAG PPAP Manual pg 16 - PPAP requirements shall be retained at appropriate locations

[soulmas]

Appropriate locations

Hi!

Need your help to clarify something....on the AIAG PPAP manual, on page 16, at the bottom, there are some notes that says that all PPAP requirements shall be retained at appropriate locations including manufacturing.... does this means that our manufacturing locations have to have a complete PPAP Package?

At this time, our manufacturing facilities are responsible to submit design center what they need to complete the PPAP, and our design center is responsible to complete/submit the PPAP to the customers... In our latest ISO/TS16949 surveillance audit, one of our manufacturing locations had a non-conformity due to they did not have the PPAP package complete. It is complete, but the site only had the PSW and the evidence they generate (Control Plan, PFMEA, Process flow, etc). We explained the auditors our process but they told us that we need to have the complete package in-site. Is this right???

HELP,
soulma

 

[Sam]

The old "what is appropriate to me is not appropriate to you" discussion. Always a "lose - lose" situation.
Do you feel that it is appropriate to have dfmea's, customer approval records or qualified lab doc at the mfg location? If not ask your auditor to explain why he feels that it is important and what value it serves.

 

[Tom W]

From what I recall - as long as the documents are Readily available you're good. Determining what readily available means can be debated.