AIAG's FMEA Manual 4th Edition Released - 2nd July 2008

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Sakura_rene

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pdf 5.0
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Kira_n

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Hi,

Did you download this file to your laptop when you purchased it? You can only open the pdf on the computer where it was downloaded to. It must not be downloaded to a network drive.

Regards,
Kira_n
 

Raffy

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Hi
I'm having some problem in requesting the newly revised FMEA. There are several why's (5Y) to answer our top management prior the released of an approved P.O. Now my concern is, What will be the effect in our system if we did not buy the new revision of FMEA? Please advise.
What could be the effective justification to convince out management to buy the new edition? :(
Raffy
 

Stijloor

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Hi
I'm having some problem in requesting the newly revised FMEA. There are several why's (5Y) to answer our top management prior the released of an approved P.O. Now my concern is, What will be the effect in our system if we did not buy the new revision of FMEA? Please advise.
What could be the effective justification to convince out management to buy the new edition? :(
Raffy
Raffy,

It's easy. Virtually all Customer Specific Requirements (CSR's) make reference to the FMEA Manual like this:

Chrysler, Ford Motor, General Motors Potential Failure Mode and Effects Analysis, FMEA Fourth Edition, July 2008. Effective November 2008.

Look at your customer's CSR's, you'll find it.

From GM:

5.2.6 Design Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (Design FMEA) if the organization is product design-responsible (See AIAG 4th Section 2, 2.2.4)

Hope this helps to make your case.

Stijloor.
 
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Watchwait

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Does anyone have a summary of the dFMEA Detection scale? This seems to ba a subject of on-going "discussion" at our company...:thanx:
 
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Keith Childers

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Does anyone have a summary of the dFMEA Detection scale? This seems to ba a subject of on-going "discussion" at our company...:thanx:
Rank Likelihood of Detection
10 Almost Impossible
9 Very Remote
8 Remote
7 Very Low
6 Low
5 Moderate
4 Moderately High
3 High
2 Very High
1 Almost Certain

More detail can be found on page 54 of the FMEA 4th Edition manual.
 
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Watchwait

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Thanks Keith! What I wouldn't give for a copy of the table on page 54 of the book...!

But pressing my luck...is there any additional verbiage following the one or two word "descriptors"? For example:

"Almost Certain-Design Control will almost certainly detect a potential cause/mechanism and subsequent failure mode"

"High-High chance Design Control will detect a potential cause/mechanism and subsequent failure mode"

"Moderate-Moderate chance Design Control will detect a potential cause/mechanism and subsequent failure mode"

"Low-Low chance Design Control will detect a potential cause/mechanism and subsequent failure mode"

"Absolute Uncertainty-Design Control will not and/or cannot detect a potential cause/mechanism and subsequent failure mode"

If so, do they look anything like the above?

:thanx:
 

Raffy

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Raffy,

It's easy. Virtually all Customer Specific Requirements (CSR's) make reference to the FMEA Manual like this:

Chrysler, Ford Motor, General Motors Potential Failure Mode and Effects Analysis, FMEA Fourth Edition, July 2008. Effective November 2008.

Look at your customer's CSR's, you'll find it.

From GM:

5.2.6 Design Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (Design FMEA) if the organization is product design-responsible (See AIAG 4th Section 2, 2.2.4)

Hope this helps to make your case.

Stijloor.
Hi Stijloor,
Sorry for the late reply. I already discussed this our top management however we are not directly supplier for the Big Three (GM, Ford & Chrysler).
What I'm just hoping that our CB will soon issue a Nonconformance against the requirement of the 4th Edition FMEA. :(
In this way, this might force the management to buy the new edition...:)
Thank you so much for your help.
Best regards,
Raffy :cool:
 
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