Appears to be a certificate mill certificate

[Lucrecia Aguilar]

TVE Certification, from India. That CB is also accredited by IAS, consulting firm Auspice Management Solutions offering simultaneous certification and consulting in a single proposal. Their proposal included pricing and time for certification services. At least one auditor for TVE is simultaneously a consultant, according to bayt Consultant Cum Auditor Auspice. His profile shows he is currently working in Auspice as Consultant, and Freelance auditor of TVE and AQC.

 

[Sidney Vianna]

consulting firm Auspice Management Solutions offering simultaneous certification and consulting in a single proposal.

If true, that would be an explicit violation of ISO 17021-1 as per below paragraph:

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So, the chain of complaint would start with TVE, then IAS, then IAF.....but I suspect this won't go anywhere. The commoditization of accredited management system certification and the lack of proper oversight is undermining any remaining credence and credibility of the sector. From low cost consultants to low cost certification bodies, to low cost accreditation bodies...the commoditization phenomenon never stops. But, and as always, press releases continue using words such as robust and rigorous assessments...what a joke.

Now, Lucrecia, you are trying to create an expose'. What for? what is your intention? What role do you play in this deal?

 

[Lucrecia Aguilar]

My intention and role was clear that to all IAF APAC AB & CB about this type of issue must address and give proper solutions.

My play and deal, first the IAF or AB or CB make sure a proper system then follow it, instead of create a loopholes escaping.

Why TVE is not accredited NABCB AB in India ? Why they choose IAS, USA, Auspice Management solution from Qatar choose CB from India ?

If they dont have a local chooses then they can find it from other country but here its available so its clear intention of gambling.

The International Accreditation Forum and its regional member body APAC have been incapable and unwilling to crack down on claims and fraudulent activities in the Middle East and India regions, opting instead to side with the various bodies and allow the unethical practices to continue.

 

[Sidney Vianna]

The International Accreditation Forum and its regional member body APAC have been incapable and unwilling to crack down on claims and fraudulent activities in the Middle East and India regions, opting instead to side with the various bodies and allow the unethical practices to continue.

And, then, the IAF wonders why certificates are not given credibility by users. People should realize that organizations such as the IAQG, IATF, TIA, etc...only perform oversight of the accredited certification process in their respective industries because they DO NOT trust the AB's to do their job on their own. It is NO ACCIDENT that the number of ISO 9001 certificates PLUMMETED in the 2018 survey. It is that simple. Meanwhile, the IAF, as a good ostrich, with their heads in the sand, is missing in action.

Let's not forget the words of Mr. Simon Feary, back in 2005 (heloooooooo......15 years ago):

"...Free markets, an over-abundance of providers and the voluntary nature of certification have allowed short-term commercial interests to exploit opportunities offered by naive markets and complicit or disinterested governments. But put another way, simply and bluntly, accreditation has failed to do its job adequately and the certification product has leaked credibility...."

Things have not improved an iota since then; just the opposite. Meanwhile, the IAF just released a strategy paper for the 2020-2025 period.