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Gefufna

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#1
Hello,

I need support regarding approval for tool suppliers for injection molding process.
During last audit, auditors requested to create a procedure how to verify and approve tool/ part (for injection molding) and to specify criteria for tool suppliers.
In most cases we provide only 3D model to tool supplier and they take over the job.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Tagin

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If what you are doing now is working well, then you want a procedure that mirrors how you do these things.

Look at how you do this process now:
  • Selection / Approval / Review
    • How do you choose a new tool supplier?
    • What is it about the supplier that you decide to use them?
    • Who has the authority to make that decision to use them?
    • After using them for a while, what do you look at to decide to continue to use them in the future, or to stop using them?
  • Verify / Approve Use
    • When they send you a tool based on your 3D model, how do you check it to make sure it is correct?
    • Who has the authority to decide that it is ok to put into use after making those checks?
 

Gefufna

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We have defined procedures and responsible person for tool supplier selection with 5 basis criteria and we didn't get any objection for this.
But the question is how to approve the tool and tool maker. Will "only" injection of the parts be enough (measurem. reports, visual appearance of the injected parts, tool function and etc.) or there is some kind of "special" approval procedure for tooling? This one is what actually is missing..
Auditors stated that there must be placed our approval, before we got approval of the part (PPAP) from our customer..
 

Gefufna

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Good morning,

In audit report it's stated: "The organization doesn't have defined criteria for tool verification."

I don't have idea how and from where to start... :(
 

Tagin

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Good morning,

In audit report it's stated: "The organization doesn't have defined criteria for tool verification."

I don't have idea how and from where to start... :(
I'm not familiar with IATF, but the auditor should have cited a clause number along with the text of the nonconformance. That clause should give you an idea of what kinds of verification is required.
 

Gefufna

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The remark is associated with Supplier management, point 5.4 (Are the necessary releases available for purchased products and services?)

What we do in practice is tool trial (injection moulding) and measurements of the parts which we get.
Than, we send the parts to our customer for validation (in most cases fit and function related). But the comment during audit was that tool must be validated by us, not end customer.

For all other raw materials I have established PPAP approval and checks list. But for the tool I don't have nor starting point
 

Tagin

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Than, we send the parts to our customer for validation (in most cases fit and function related). But the comment during audit was that tool must be validated by us, not end customer.
Having the customer validate the produced product would not be a substitute for validating the tool for usage in your processes.
 
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