Are current 'excessive' Customer Requirements killing the aerospace industry?

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pearson114

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I'm sure anyone working in aerospace will understand what I mean... in particular Rolls-Royce, but are excessive quality/engineering requirements really necessary, and are they really worth it?

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be a 'Quality' person, but I can't help but think that the primes are simply adding more and more obstacles for manufacturing and releasing against their approval. (Rolls-Royce, Airbus, Boeing etc).

The introduction of SABRe2, is the biggest example I can give. The entire standard is open to interpretation. I have spent all year working with the RR Sup Qual Engineer and trying to figure out how we interpret each clause, only to be assessed by someone completely different who had different interpretation of pretty much everything within the standard. Despite nobody being proved wrong or right, the NC's came flooding in.

I have reached the end of my tether in aerospace. Hours and hours go into providing documentation that nobody looks at. Orders are sent in from the primes with no drawing issues on. Common sense no longer prevails.

I'm not sure if the same thing is happening in other industries such as automotive or medical.

I leave the aerospace industry behind on Friday - I begin my new journey in the materials and textiles industry and I cannot wait.
 
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Re: Are current 'excessive' requirements killing the industry?

I wish you good luck in your new endeavour, and do let us know what you think about the cultural chocks that are sure to follow. :agree:

/Claes
 

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"Killing" the industry? No, I don't think the aerospace industry is dying. Harming the industry? Sometimes.

IMO, companies of all sizes can get caught up in a quality frenzy where something goes wrong and, in order to fix it, new and ever more complex systems and requirements are implemented in an effort to keep it from recurring. The problem is that those new systems and requirements can build-up over time and become stifling to innovation and smooth operations and thus profit. There is a fine line between doing enough and doing too much.

Sometimes the excessively strict requirements put into place by end customers drive the manufacturers to implement the ever more complex systems and requirements, which they in turn flow down to their suppliers. And often it makes little sense from a practical standpoint.
 
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